Eurovision 2016 – So this year, one of our regular readers is offering to do an ET contest to compare our TEKO and Frida results to a post-Eurovision result, based on the contest’s infamous 1-8, 10 & 12 system. So let’s see what our rankings are now!
He got an overwhelming positive response from you guys and over twenty people on this forum has already voted on their favorites in this ET Aftermath 2016!So the reason why this was an awesome idea to begin with, is because we always complain about the result of the juries and we have this ranking of all the songs in the contest that we really don’t use. I also know for a fact that many of you guys are very musically interested, The Fridas shows that we are diverse in our voting and the ETSC shows that we have a slightly different taste than the juries have in their voting! So why not make it into a ranking showing of our own jury views!
Now this Aftermath ranking is in a very early stage, so e will gladly take any feedback we can from you guys on how to improve it or if you think that any changes are needed! For now, it’ll be only the top 10 (but we could do a full rankings as well, to compare the two voting systems). The ET Aftermath will always be after the contest (hence the name) as it is intended to not be a ranking of only the songs per say, but the overall performance in the contest as well! This is of course individually ranked, but please take it in consideration when you are sending me your final votes! At that note we will give the ones who have already voted one chance to resend them! You don’t have to, but if you want to you can, as this article marks the start of the voting period! All of the countries who performed are present, even the ones who failed to reach the final!
You can vote by sending your top ten this season to schultze94@gmail.com.
The voting will close on the 28th of June 2016.
As for ETSC my main priority atm. is Sweden, but I also have things in store from Finland, Denmark and Germany.
My second option is Sweden and Denmark the third. ”Cod Wars” :p
And your first option?
Brexit :p
Ah, I see – fishing in troubled waters :P
The ultimate element
of cord wars :p
Have you guys found your ETSC entry?
Yes :)
Found artist(s), but not decided on the song yet.
I have also found the country but i’ll have to choose between 2 songs from 2 different artists.
I have few songs in mind but I give priority to 2 of them
One specific country?I had 7 songs but now i’m focusing on those 2 from one country.Of course,i changed my initial plans to submit this other song.I always do that.
2 different countries in priority.
I think i know one of them.
How come?
My agents are always on the prowl and after a meticulous analysis one country seems to tick all the boxes.
Let’s see…Unless u want to e mail it :P
I have! If I manage to crab the country that is.
For ETSC 6 I will choose a song from a country whose music scene I know next to nothing about.
After Friday’s result I decided to switch to this one.
Farage wanted global reach for the UK. I am not gonna let him down, so off to the Caribbean!
Despite not knowing what country I get, I have found my spokesperson:
Not a cod?
No, we are careful with cods. It’s a wolfish.
(* a wolffish)
The cod is gone forever :p
True, so we had to find something else.
And despite being very ugly, it is a delicious one :-)
Normally on Friday’s I eat only fish. I think I will cook cod this time around. I will ask for an Icelandic though. I will troll them as much as I can :p
No code-dreaming :p
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/british-fishermen-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches?CMP=fb_gu
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.ro/2014/05/ukip-fish-and-ivory-voting-record.html
This is a great article on why the fishers vs EU argument of the leave camp was complete bollocks.
So the results are in and I have here a winner and a small surprise that I have been working on this morning for you guys to make it a little more exciting ;) The results will be revealed 18:00 CET on this article!
the silent readers striked again?
Actually not, no silent reader approached me which I found pretty sad :(, but hopefully next year we can begin earlier with the article :P
#Waiting
#Excited
Update 1: We begin by giving you all the zero pointers this year which none of you guys had in your top 10. I ranked them by how they faired in the real contest:
36. Malta
37. Azerbaijan
38. Slovenia
39. Finland
40. Albania
41. Denmark
42. Switzerland
So its kinda clear that neither of you wanted Malta or Azerbaijan in the final :P
5 of those are in my bottom 10 while the other 2 in my bottom 15, so for me it’s looking good so far. :P
I wanted Azerbaijan in the Final but with a stronger LIVE :P
Yeah the live was kinda underwhelming unfortunally
Yep, Azerbaijan lost 15 places in my ranking after that live..
mostly agree with that, though i’d have Albania a bit higher
Yeah tbh her vocals was very good!
36. Malta , my #28
37. Azerbaijan, my #17
38. Slovenia, my #32
39. Finland , my #37
40. Albania, my 40
41. Denmark, my #34
42. Switzerland, my #42
Update 2: Here we have all the countries plus the zero pointers who should not have been in the final or deserved to stay in the semi according to you guys:
27. Montenegro: 8
28. Poland: 8
29. Norway: 8
30. Greece: 8
31. Bosnia & Herzegovina: 7
32. San Marino: 5
33. Moldova: 5
34. Belarus: 3
35. Ireland: 1
So interesting enough we kinda agreed on the ESC result except for Poland, Azerbaijan and Malta (Poland almost makes it doh)
Actually thought Montenegro would have fared better here.
I gave it 2 or 3 out of 8 points :P
Yeah maybe, I think I might be the ones that dont get that song at all and with the random dubstep idk, for me it deserved to stay in the semi.
27. Montenegro: my #9
28. Poland: my #30
29. Norway: my #18
30. Greece: my #41
31. Bosnia & Herzegovina: my #31
32. San Marino: my #39
33. Moldova: my #35
34. Belarus: my #36
35. Ireland: my #29
Shouldn’t Poland be at #27?
It was voted by only 2 voters in our ranking whilst Montenegro was voted by 3 and Chech Republic was voted by 4. So thats why its 27
Ah ! I see!!!
I feel Montenegro deserved a bit better, it’s 11 places higher in my ranking.
ahh, this supposed to be a reply to the 2nd update. :P
I didn’t mind it that much, its like last in my ranking XD That was the only song I literally couldn’t stand at all.
I’m not surprised by it’s rank, but for me it deserved more, it’s true though that it’s not an easy song to like. :)
Update 3: Now to the songs in the final that didn’t made it to the top 10:
11. Australia. 52
12. The Netherlands. 52
13. Hungary: 45
14. Serbia: 42
15. Belgium: 31
16. Croatia: 26
17. Germany: 24
18. Sweden. 24
19. Cyprus: 24
20. Israel: 21
21. Iceland: 19
22. FYR Macedonia: 19
23. United kingdom: 12
24. Lithuania: 11
25. Spain: 9
26. Czech Republic: 8
Australia and Sweden judged harshly by you guys. Czech Republic just managed to squeeze itself into the final cause of more voters.
More points for Belgium than I thought.
I’m surprised that Australia and Netherlands didn’t make it in the top 10. I pretty much agree with most of them though. FYR Macedonia is a bit too high for me, while Lithuania quite low.
Well thank Tehoe for the Macedonian placement ;) He gave it 12 points
Also, I think Spain is very underrated here…
Yeah in the future doh I will ask everyone to give me their top 10 overall and the top 10 in only the final, cause of a surprise that I will reveal later ;)
But yeah I actually didn’t mind the Spanish song at all
I believe all of Czech R., Australia, Sweden, Cyprus, and Spain got exactly what they deserved here :P
FYROM is definitely overrated. It’s in my bottom 5 this year!
Yeah this is the problem with only 24 voters, hopefully next year more of the community will vote!
Australia and Sweden are in my top 6 too!
Update 4: Now to the top 10 songs and we begin with the first 5:
6. France: 76
7. Italy: 65
8. Austria: 63
9. Russia: 62
10. Estonia: 59
So here we see our best non qualifier Estonia getting a respectful top 10 placing and Russia closely after. Austria were always a fan favorite whilst Italy got a more fair judgement then in the real competition by the juries who imo should have boosted it more. France gained some momentum in the end, but didn’t quite reach the top 5.
Well I love the Italian song but I still believe it deserved just outside top 10 (if I remember correctly I didn’t award it any points in the end). The live was a HUGE let down, same as in San Remo !
Estonia is an ET darling, I have them at #11 too :P
Austria gets what televoting thought it deserved, pretty fair imo.
Which leaves as with the best 5 performances in the top 5 ;)
France was boring LIVE and 6th is a pretty fair ranking cause it’s a fresh song with hit potential
I had Italy 11th too!
Reasonable ranking ! Italy is always switching places in my ranking (from my#7 to #14 depending on whether I pay attention to the live performance or simply listen to just the song in studio!)
It was 7th before the show but after that show it just missed my top 10.
Same here. It was around #5 in my precontest ranking
Yeah the live was a bit of a let down in the Italian case, but I still liked it. Her raw feelings on stage really moved me in the end, but I think it was the staging that kinda killed it imo. They should have made it smaller and more ”cozylike” to make her performance stand out more.
All these make sense although not all are very close to where I ranked them.
All these make sense although not all are very close to where I ranked them.
Update 5: Now there wont be a surprise who our winner is of this season is, but it was really close between 3 songs and I mean really f***ing close between them, but in the end one of them snatched third place by just one point!:
1. Ukraine: 206
2. Latvia: 139
3. Armenia: 84
4. Bulgaria: 83
5. Georgia: 83
So Georgia unfortunally lost its third placement in the end whilst Armenia triumphed with just one single point! There was no one who could contest our top 2 songs of the season and we congratulate Ukraine for its huge win! :D
Bulgaria got fourth place as it was voted by more people!
Oops. Morgan won’t like this one AT ALL :p
But honestly Armenia was DEVINE live and with a more interesting song than both Georgia and Bulgaria imo. Their ET bronze medal makes perfect sense.
I gave them 12 p ;)
Yeah I also awarded high points to Armenia in the end, that live and that staging was simply marvelous! Like everything about that song was tailored perfectly on stage imo
It is the other way round for me. I really like the song but found the way it was staged a bit too … well … obvius. (I don’t want to use the words I think of in public …)
Yep, the top 2 was obvious.
I’m glad Georgia made it in the top 5, I didn’t expect it to do so well before the voting.
It seems Bulgaria got the same place as in ESC, haha, that’s also quite surprising for me, I thought it would end up lower.
I actually started to really like Bulgaria after the contest (hrm when I was less drunk and hungover ehe), that live was just amazing imo and Poli is just so likeable ^^
I liked Bulgaria too even before the contest, but not a lot, it’s a cool song, very enjoyable, but never expected it to do so well. In my ranking it’s 15th, before the show it was 16th.
Overall I believe these results reflect ET taste perfectly. Excluding the obvious top 2, Armenia, Georgia and Bulgaria got a huge support after live performance despite not catering to everyone’s taste before May.
Italy and France (TEKO finalists) are just missing top 5 and it makes perfect sense cause their live was underwhelming and boring respectively.
Estonia at #10 is quite fair too given the awkward live but good song.
It’s nice to have Austria at exactly where televoting ranked them.
And the biggest pleasure of all is to see Australia AND Sweden BOTH missing the top 10. They were extremely overrated in real esc (as always imo)
Damn! I wish I had given Bulgaria 4 instead of 3 points!
update 6: now for the experiment hihi ^_^ I made some calculations and morphed our points into the juries ranking of 2436 points until I got this result:
1. Ukraine: 401
2. Latvia: 271
3. Armenia: 164
4. Bulgaria: 162
5. Georgia: 162
6. France: 148
7. Italy: 127
8. Austria: 123
9. Russia: 121
10. Australia: 101
11. Netherlands: 101
12. Hungary: 88
13. Serbia: 82
14. Belgium: 60
15. Croatia: 51
16. Germany: 47
17. Sweden: 47
18. Cyprus: 47
19. Israel: 41
20. UK: 23
21. Lithuania: 21
22. Spain: 17
23. Czechia: 16
24. Poland: 15
25. Azerbaijan: 0
26. Malta: 0
Of course some you guys who voted for the likes of Estonia, Iceland and Macedonia wont get your actual veiws here, but I thaught it was kinda stressful to make all of you resend your top 10 from ONLY the final, so this is the result for now! Next year I will be more prepared for that!
I also took the liberty of replacing the official jury points with ours getting this final result with the televoting added in this ESC:
1. Ukraine: 724 (1)
2. Russia: 482 (3)
3. Bulgaria: 342 (4)
4. Latvia: 334 (15)
5. Armenia: 298 (7)
6. Australia: 292 (2)
7. France: 257 (6)
8. Austria: 243 (13)
9. poland: 237 (8)
10. Sweden: 186 (5)
11. Georgia: 186 (20)
12. Serbia: 162 (18)
13. Italy: 161 (16)
14. Hungary: 144 (19)
15. Netherlands: 140 (11)
16. Lithuania: 117 (9)
17. Belgium: 111 (10)
18. Cyprus: 100 (21)
19. Croatia: 84 (23)
20. Azerbaijan: 73 (17)
21. Germany: 57 (26)
22. Israel: 52 (14)
23. United Kingdom: 31 (24)
24. Spain: 27 (22)
25. Malta: 16 (12)
26. Chech republic: 16 (25)
Enjoy! ^^
Here is the whole voting grid for those who are interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JGADPNTNLvKAaMNMQmg4_o-JBdthV4_D-szOMSMYHoY/edit#gid=0
So we see that Latvia got a huge boost from us whilst Malta almost came last haha and the rest is kinda self explanatory.
Now lets await the ETSC article cause its starting to get really close now before July is upon us :O
Lol, I didn’t expect to be the only one who voted for Greece :D
Thanks for the analysis!
Thanks for al your work, Gregor. We were much better juries, if I may say so lol. Next year, I shall try to send two top 10s – the general one and another from the final. Latvia 16 was the most underrated song in the 2016 final.
Well I do like statistics and stuff ^-^ It doesn’t really need to be two tops, just a top which have 10 finalists in it and I will calculate the rest ;D
Why can’t I see my name among the voters?
Scroll down ;)
Opps thanks…I thought you forgot to add me up since I was the last to vote 😊
Of course not, you got the special place below instead ^-^
Thanks for all your work, Gregor. That was fun.
The 1 point I awarded to Czechia brought Gabriela into the final. Good!
GOOOO ET Aftermath!
Lets move on to ETSC :P
Good point, any news on when that starts?
US reaction to Eurovision 16 live again: gays, black mamas, other! how they so hated Ukraine win! funny on how they base their comments!
They love shiny plastic in America, Paul, or so it seems! LOL Thanks for the link and back to work for me! Subtlety is an unknown concept for these viewers,
obligado, yes back to work for me too and so much work too! was funny watching that nonetheless especially the older women!
And the comment section is full with ”Ukraine didn’t deserve to win” (sigh) Its sad to see really, but hopefully Ukraines win will change countries approach to the contest! Making it a less mainstraeam one and actually bring more different and unique songs to the table!
This is Helena Paparizou and Sergey Lazarev singing “You’re the only one” last night during the MAD Video awards:
kind of really hate that!
Kind of really love that!
So once again the winner is a song which is probably the strongest and most interesting one from a musical point of view (hence my 10 points), but which I can’t help having a bit of distance to for various reasons. Congratulations Ukraine.
My mum btw. was not so impressed by the Ukrainian song, her main issue being that she couldn’t remember the melody.
Facts about the Icelandic football team.There’s one that’s esc-related!lol
Since i can’t see this video posted here i’ll reveal that the esc-related info is that the goalkeeper of the national team directed the video for “Never Forget”!
The German commentator mentioned this lovely fact during Iceland’s first match.
Back to work too. (sad emoji)
and the writer of the 1987 Icelandic song……?
What do you mean?
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