ET Premath 2024

/ Sekhmet Morgan

It is time for our “Premath” contest! So let’s start voting on it and unite ourselves through music in this year’s Extravaganza statistical deliciousness that we call The Eurovision Times Premath 2024!

Our regular host isn’t here this year to reprise his role as Premath host, so I’ll be stepping in this year to make sure we get a Premath ranking nonetheless, even if at a smaller scale (only 2 weeks left before rehearsals). This poll combines the ranking of all the participating users’ top 10 songs in this year’s contest and will be revealed in a dramatic finish from the country that got the least amount of votes to the winner of this year’s Premath. This is the first part of two polls that will be held this season. The second one being the ET Aftermath, which will resume later this year after Eurovision has been held!

Now it’s all up to you how you wanna rank your top 10 songs, but with many live performances still at an early stage, we don’t know how it’s gonna sound or look on the ESC stage yet. So a moral guideline could be to try and rate according to the studio versions of the songs as it also creates a slight difference from the ET Aftermath, where everything from the song to the live performance in the contest is ranked. This is not a criteria, just a guideline, cause in the end it’s your personal top 10 that counts!

Everyone can participate, you can be an ET veteran or an ET newbie as long as you follow the rules!

The rules are simple: Send your personal top 10 songs from this year’s Eurovision (from 1-8, 10, 12) AND your alias to this email-address: artemismorgan@hotmail.com

Deadline: 26th of April 23:59 CET!

Reveal date: 27th of April, 18:30 CET!

Disclaimer: do not post your Top 10 in the comment below in order to keep it exciting, but you can hint at some of your favorites!

May the best entry win!

778 thoughts on “ET Premath 2024”

  1. Didn’t expect points from Austria. Maybe they meant Germany and not Greece? :P

    @Penguin, how will you respond to this sisterhood betrayal? Feels like Austrians are mad at you for bashing Diva Kallen :P

  2. Austria and Switzerland rarely give us points. Infamous the Swiss 1 point to Johnny Blue even though Lena was a star there. She still looks gorgeous btw.

    • So has Mustii, even more actually during the preparties and the voice live.

        • I am not really sure that he will win, but even if he does, don’t hold your breath about Zagreb being the host city.

          I’ve read some discussions about it, and many people thought it should be Split.

          The problem with Split is that it would cost more to hold it there, as Split is very expensive (everything, from basic utilities like electricity, to accomodation, transport, flights due to expensive airport taxes there, and everything else). Also, there are some problems with Spaladium Arena (their larges arena, it has been temporarily closed at the moment due to debts, I believe).

          5-6 years ago, I would have said Split with certainty, but now, due to all these problems, I just don’t know.

          Other (very credible) option is Zadar, whose arena is larger then the one in Split, accomodation is cheaper, and Zadar is also Croatia’s main RyanAir hub).

          Also, many people still remember that Zadar was favourite to host ESC 1990, and in the end it went to Zagreb (which is why Zadar was chosen to host Yugoslav final that year).

          Last option is Opatija, “the capital “of Croatia’s pop music and tradiotional host city of Dora. Although very very small, Opatija has around 200 hotels, and the airport is very close.

          Apparently, this would be in joined organization with Rijeka, where neighbouring Rijeka would provide the arena, while everything else would be in Opatija.

  5. Gut Yontif – happy Passover. Protests continue as the holiday starts, like all of us they want a deal.

  6. Argo and a backing vocalist for Greece 2017 were the ury members…lol

    • Super exotic somebody is voting for Czechia AND Australia as “best” of anything.

      The human race is an amazing species!

      • I find Cyprus and Georgia much more disturbing … but then those 2 are brother countries of Greece.

      • It’s scary most of those Eurojury votes are like that considering they could actually be the real esc juries. It’s a bit reassuring the fact last year the real jury results were quite different.

        • I think now they’re more bubble personalities but not the real juries for which there are specific criteria. Last year I didnt know any of the French jury who just worked in the music industry, so that in the past the French jury could surprise with a 12pts to Latvia 2015 or Greece 2021!

  7. We’re sending another Patriot system to Ukraine. We’re giving The Otter what he needs. I volunteer to do the same by moving into the presidential palace.

  10. Random thought but it will be so unfair if Lithuania doesn’t get it’s best result this year. That awful 2006 joke entry can’t hold the title forever. “Luktelk” is the perfect candidate to break it.

    • Exactlly! I would have prefered if “The Roop” had “dethroned” the horrific 2006 entry, and they had better chances to be in TOP 5 then “Luktelk” does. But of course, I am holding my fingers crossed :.)

      • Their Semi 2 ranking

        1. NLD 124

        2. ARM 124

        3. CHE 120

        4. AUT 120

        5. NOR 119

        6. CZE 118

        7. DNK 117

        8. EST 113

        9. GEO 110

        10. LVA 110

        11. BEL 108

        12. ALB 104

        13. GRC 102

        14. SMR 88

        15. MLT 74

        16. ISR 72

        19 out of 113 Estonian points come from the Estonian couple who shamelessly awarded a 10 and a 9p

        This is the first poll online where BEL and GRC are not considered as worthy Qualifiers … Keep in mind Esc Bubble had Cha Cha Cha in their bottom 10 last year …

    • It’s one of these dull X-Factor ballads. In fairness, it mainly ranks that low because of the situation. Germany, Greece, Malta and especially Austria are objectively far worse.

        • That’s correct. None of the others screech hysterically.

          • Still, there’s a risk there’s a concept unlike the vast majority of esc entries. I get why it might be alienating, surprisingly enough it does extremely well in polls so far

            • It is indeed! It only needs to translate live otherwise I can’t see it as high as odds and polls suggests. So it will either do a Konstrakta or a Russia 21 imo (but without the massive russian diaspora imo that would translate around #15 for Greece)

            • Greece has a big diaspora too but I don’t think they’re necessarily big ESC fans, the guys I know aren‘t.

            • Recent years have proven these arguments false. Ukraine has THE biggest diaspora of all, needless to say

            • They usually have good songs but this year is weak. Also everyone loves them. It would be cool if Zelenskyy announced the points. #Otterpower

    • Their votes make no sense.
      Granted, the Israeli entry is not by any chance miraculous or the best thing since sliced bread, but it is musically competent on a level that several of the other entries aren’t.

      As if this is going to stop the contemptible atrocities happening in Gaza right now.
      Stoopid.

        • Yes, WE ARE TAKING A STAND.

          ALSO, WE ARE DOING IT ANONYMOUSLY.

          The whole thing makes me sick.

          I have to say, if the crowd in Malmø are openly hostile when she’s on stage, then I think several viewers will come to her rescue.

            • I can’t say that she’ll be in the top 3, because I don’t think voters would want to crown her, but if you remember the Tomalchevy sisters who were endowed with a dog of a song that had been written on a napkin in 5 minutes after a gathering of ESC relics had met on a Skype call – when they took the stage in Cph they were booed, and still ended up in 7th place because viewers took pity on them.

              I think something similar easily could happen with Eden Golan. I would not be surprised if Israel break into top 10.

  14. Bambie Statement in Palestine “I stand with everyone doing the boycott.”

          • Says the UN keeoer. More childish commentary and since you like offending I have this to you – get life if you think you can get one.

          • 50+ years old person going around users and even artists because they take stancw for smth you can’t understand. If anything you should have been moderated. Go back to mommy and ask her to teach you manners!

          • If BT iand anyone supports Palestine or criticises Israel is childish and deserves to get lost as you have been taught to say, then what do you deserve to be called for not standing up for the massacres Israel is responsible for? To me you are morally complicit.

    • Gee, I hope the UN calls them to ask about the Artsakh controversy and what they should do.

      Like, of course everybody is allowed to have an opinion, but to quote the Latvian luminary mr Dons:

      “Everybody just pretending they’re preachers, preachers
      It’s killin’ me slow
      Yeah, I’d rather let them dig my grave shallow
      Instead of selling out to something so hollow, hollow”.

      • So she shouldn’t comment on this because she has not posted any comment against Azerbaijan so far? Let’s not forget the situatuin in Artsakh was not covered by European media in length so ordinary people might be completely unaware of the specifics of this situation.

        • Of course we all understand that what is covered vs. what is overlooked by the media is basically a political decision.

          In the case of the Caucausus, it was simply more convenient for everyone to look away while 100,000 people became refugees. To Europe because it can still import azeri gas (some of it of russian provenance) and keeping on the good side of one dictator while denouncing others. To the ruling circles in Armenia because they got rid of one military headache and can hope for some sort of “normalisation”. To Russia because it gets to keep its troops there which was exactly what Stalin had in mind when he left an armenian enclave surrounded by azeri territory. And so on and so forth.

          • “In the case of the Caucausus, it was simply more convenient for everyone to look away while 100,000 people became refugees”

            It is not necessarily a choice to remain inactive if ordinary people have not been adequately informed about the issue.

            • There is a reason they are not “adequately informed” even though we live in such an information-saturated world, as I write in my first sentence.

            • People can google it and get results the want, true. But you really need a good base for it sometimes and the Artsakh situation isn’t the most accessible. Do you know in lenght for example what is happening at the moment in Ecuador or what have happened 203 years ago in El Salvador? And if you google it do you think you will come across reports that will help you understand? In the case of BT the Palestine-Israel conflict and boycot Israel is much more accessible due to the Irish public reporting on it in length.

            • That’s because of Ireland’s own colonial history with Britain, the IRA’s close historical ties to the palestinian movement and the general “intersectional” prejudice of the western left which regards the colonial oppression of those belonging to “non european” civilisations as a more serious matter than when the roles are reversed.

              The Caucasus is not in Peru, it has figured large in european conflicts, most recently in WW II. There was also a genocide there in WW I that actually served as a blueprint for the jewish genocide during WW II (as Hitler himself admitted when he said that “nobody remembers what happened to the armenians”). But even that basic and vital historical knowledge is severely overlooked and underpublicised in general media and culture because of political pressure from a certain very important country, as you know very well.

            • My point was not about which conflict is more connected to Europe or not, but about finding accessible and credible information about one topic.

        • Listen, people can say what they want to. But they cannot expect everybody to just applaud them for everything they say. Particularly when it seems to be about virtue signaling more than anything else. This just reeks of campaigning to me. It is also quite easy to say you are against the murder of innocent people. I mean, we all are. There’s a cheapness in just writing stuff online or whatever, then afterwards you can complain about the abuse you recieved, and suddenly the conflict in the Middle East is all about you (not saying that this is what Bambi Thug is doing, but I have seen this behaviour elsewhere).

          I find it poor taste to indirectly comment on a co-competitor. It appears as if you are trying to lobby for votes.

            • The last thing I wanna hear about is people becoming pationate about other people’s opinions. Bumbie Thug can have her own stance in this matter without having to pass a test about global politics…

            • Of course she can. I am really mostly agnostic about all things Bambi Thug.

              I just notice that how you respond to the conflict seems to have become some kind of test for all sorts of people. And it just strike me as odd that this conflict of all conflicts become an avatar of opinions. The absurdity of our world is that it is filled with conflicts that we do not necessarily discuss as passionately as this one, although maybe (?) we should.

              At the end of the day, I hope we all do what we can to keep the peace in our relationships, and to work for advancing it in our world. We need peacemakers everywhere.

              And this is the final comment from me on this matter. I apologize if I was being to harsh. I am just. so. tired.

    • “But I am not boycotting myself, instead I will be using witchcraft and the black arts against Israel/Hamas/Iran (take your pick)”

      It is amazing how people think that empty words to cover up their own self-serving decisions speak louder than actual deeds…

  17. Fair play from Italy awarding top score to Baby Lasagna. Who on earth is voting for Hurricane? !!!

    • Iceland, Georgia, Australia, Albania = the epitome of “loud” taste (euphemism for kitsch)

  22. Miss Austria is a gift that keeps on giving. Also wrong target audience. IKEA Vienna doesn’t know the difference between a rave and a red-light district – but neither do Kaleen and her producers.

  24. it has been 200 days (much longer in Ukraine). Most of the hostages are dead, Netanyahu has abondoned them.

  25. The Ukraine aid bill is going to be passed in the US Senate shortly. 80 voted for cloture.

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