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ETSC 14: Discover the Winner!


ETSC – Every year, the summer is the calm after the storm so it’s the perfect time to resume the highly anticipated the Eurovision Times Song Contest! Each one of you can represent an European country and get to send a song and then vote in a fake Eurovision! The results are out!

Each summer, a good number of regular readers stay around for different reasons (they don’t get breaks from work or don’t go on holidays…) but there aren’t much news to keep us going. So the last few years we introduced all sorts of games. The Eurovision Times Awards (Fridas) and the Douze Points Trivia Quiz kept us going in 2013 and Fridas have made come-backs the past five years. Four years ago, a lot of you asked for a fake Eurovision where each one of us would send songs and get to vote. And that was it: the Eurovision Times Song Contest, from then on known as ETSC.

We’ve therefore had 13 editions of ETSC, two in 2014: July 2014 and August 2014, both won by France; the third edition was held in July 2015 and won by the United-Kingdom; the fourth edition was held in Augusut 2015 and was won by Austria; the fifth edition was held in July 2016 and was won by Israel; the sixth edition was held in August 2016 and won by Denmark; the 7th edition was held in July 2017 and was won again by France; the 8th edition was held in August 2017, and it was the first one that went “blind”, meaning people did not know who sent what. It crowned Greece. In 2018, German-speaking countries got their revenge as Switzerland won ETSC 9 and Germany won ETSC 10. Last year, Sweden and Italy, two historically big countries of Eurovision, finally won their first ETSC and earlier this year, in July, Sweden won for the second time. For more information, you can discover our new page dedicated to the contest, with its history, all songs participating and the rankings here. A specific article for Top 10 stats was also open here. You can also find it by clicking on the “Specials” section of the site, in the top menu in the red box, just under the site’s name. “ETSC 14 – August 2020” will be officially held in Gothenburg after Winona Oak won.

After a first round open for people to sign up with a country and send a song, we got 48 people in. In the meantime, to keep us busy, I made a random draw. I also made personal postcards for each entry which will be revealed along with the songs. You can click on the picture below to listen to the songs again:

It was two weeks ago that we discovered each song individually in a dramatic night reveal-show. And after that, the players cast a vote. These songs were presented by the following HoDs, in alphabetical order: Alex, Anders, Arpatilaos, Avat, Bay, Caolán, Daniel, David, Dimitris, Dino, Dominik, Donnie, Donnyademaj, Elmar, Franco, Greg, Gregor, Guitar, Hjallis, Jerry, Kenna, Lina, Luke, 8Mark8, Marko, Martin, Matthew, Mermaid, Michos, Mylor, Nick P, Oasisoffear, Ovidarch, Oxi, Pablo, Patrick P, PJ, Porsteinn, Razvan, Ren, Sedapsi, Sekhmet Morgan, Sheldon, Shevek, Togravus, Trekks, Valen, and Zainab!

Results lasted for 4h! 2,165 comments later… Here are the full results (click to see in big):

So the winner is Belgium! After 3rd in etsc 12 and 2nd in etsc 13 it’s finally a win for Belgium! The song is “Give Me The Knife” by Billie:

So the most striking thing in the results is that 6 countries return: Belgium (1st), Denmark (5th), Sweden (7th), Morocco (8th), France (9th) and North Macedonia (10th)! New powerhouses? Belgium, often ovelooked in the past, moved as the year’s big thing: after a second bronze medal in ETSC 12, it moved one place up in ETSC 13 and finally grab the victory in ETSC 14 moving yet again one place up! Three medals in a row! Another similarity between the two 2020 editions are how close pointwise they are, with very similar patterns in the top 10 including the tie at 83pts in 9th and 10th (both times involving North Macedonia too)! The three medalists from ETSC 13 get Top 10 again, though the HoD of the year is definitely Razvan, twice runner-up in the past (Netherlands in ETSC 7 and Denmark in ETSC 9) who grabs two victories! However, Slovakia got points from more people than Belgium and neither got points from at least half of voters. But out of 48 it seems a very tough mission now! As usual, a new country enters Top 10 and it’s Slovakia, straight to silver (it joins Spain, Netherlands or Russia as countries with a silver medal as best results to date). Armenia and Jordan were very close to get their first too while Cyprus and Albania were close to a Top 10 they rarely get! As usual, since it went to the last vote, I made two logos to celebrate the nerve-breaking finish (click to see in big):

Using the pattern used for the 10th anniversary ETSC stats article, we get this (the number in brackets is the number of times in the Top 10):

Rank Country Artist Song HoD Points Draw
1 Belgium (7) Billie Bentein Give Me The Knife Razvan (8) 149 #24
2 Slovakia (1) Hrdza Štefan / Stephen / Штефан Jerry (3) 133 #46
3 United-Kingdom (7) Glass Animals It’s All So Incredibly Loud Dimitris (9) 121 #9
4 Finland (9) Ritarit Ritari Donnie (9) 114 #30
5 Denmark (8) Efterklang Lyset Sekhmet Morgan (13) 102 #32
6 Norway (5) Annie American Cars Hjallis (4) 96 #42
7 Sweden (8) Elias Thinking Of You David (2) 89 #37
8 Morocco (2) Mehdi Bahmad Lay Dino (4) 87 #1
9 France (13) Polo & Pan Feel Good PJ (3) 83 #35
10 North Macedonia (4) Bobi Andonov Faithful Elmar (2) 83 #47

Now time for the prediction game! It was first started in ETSC 4 “hint” article and back then I wrote this: “We can play a guessing game, people wishing to participate can post a “prediction” top 10 and I’ll award points based on the countries that are in the actual top 10 and predicted in yours accorddingly. I wont reveal the results until after the voting and winner is announced, but we’d get an extra side bet to care about ;)” In the end, it has secured itself has an ETSC standard: former winnets were Donnie (ETSC 4),  Nick P (ETSC 5), Donnie (ETSC 6), Dimitris (ETSC 7), Gregor (ETSC 8), Razvan (ETSC 9), Razvan (ETSC 10), Donnie (ETSC 11), Razvan (ETSC 12), Patrick (ETSC 13).

PREDICTED TOP TEN CORRECT TOP TEN
1  United-Kingdom (3) 1  Belgium (5)
2  Norway (6) 2  Slovakia (13)
3  Sweden (7) 3  United-Kingdom (1)
4  France (9) 4  Finland (8)
5  Belgium (1) 5  Denmark (29)
6  Switzerland (17) 6  Norway (2)
7  Morocco (8) 7  Sweden (3)
8  Finland (4) 8  Morocco (7)
9  North Macedonia (10) 9  France (4)
10  Spain (16) 10  North Macedonia (9)

Just like last time we go for 8/10 but last time we predicted the top 6 and the winner right: this time we missed the runner-up and the 5th! Denmark predicted tied 29th is probably the worst predicted Top 5 ever! However our two misses in Top 10 were 16th and 17th and likely top 10ers. Albania (11th), Jordan (12th) and Cyprus (13th) weren’t predicted as high for sure! Here are the results of prediction game: Donnie (334), Anders (308), Dimitris (294), Ovi (186+100), Patrick P. (285), Trekks (276), Martin (274), Donnyademaj (266), David (262), Hjallis (256), Gregor (254), Razvan (244), Pablo (239), 8Mark8 (239), Dominik (238), Ren (235), Oxi (222), Greg (215), Nick P. (214), Guitar (184), Dino (184), Franco (182), Porsteinn (180), Sheldon (168), Elmar (152), Valen (125), PJ (82), Lina (80). So even though Ovi got the late bonus (he was second before last in sending HoD prediction and got exactly 10 right!), his bad prediction for Top 10 prevents him from winning it all! This is our worst prediction individually (only two people above 300pts…) mostly due to missing Slovakia and Denmark, with Switzerland comfortably 6th missing and France 5th only 9th. So a lot of low scoring predictions. However, with his first 8 predictionwise being all in the Top 10 (guess who he missed, that’s right, Slovakia and Denmark!), Donnie gets a very comfortable win! Anders, thanks to being the only one who predicted Denmark (in 4th place, giving him 42pts over the competition), gets a second place! Congratulations to them!

And we take our leave for a year, with all our beautiful medals:

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1,325 comments on “ETSC 14: Discover the Winner!

  1. We’re watching Berlin’s athletics meeting: my bf had Vetter and I had Duplantis :p

  2. I just read this article about some “supposed” demonstrations in Bulgaria for 64 days now.
    I realized that I haven’t read about it in any acclaimed western news media (not even the neighbouring Greek media, but I consider them a disgrace anyway) so I guess it must be fake news (or they are too busy trying to overthrow the last dictator in Europe).
    https://www.efsyn.gr/kosmos/eyropi/259639_giati-einai-stoys-dromoys-oi-boylgaroi-epi-64-imeres

    • That’s because Bulgaria is very obedient within the EU and Borisov is playing the pro-western card claiming thats the opposition will hand over the country to Russia. Hence the EU funding keeps streaming in.

      However the article you cite is not very complete either. Much of the rage in Bulgaria is directed against the leader of the turkish minority party who is kingmaker in parliament. Both him and the prime-minister are considered Erdogan’s men and for this reason they have the ear of the german chancellor as well.

      • Bulgaria, like Romania, Poland and Hungary should be kicked out of the EU or at least stop getting funds, which are usually just wasted by the local cleptocrats. I’m amazed there are many people besides Raz left in Romania, half of the population seems to be begging in front of supermarkets and bakeries here.Worse, many of them seem to have been victimized by organized crime considering all the severed limbs and crutches sometimes used on the left, sometimes on the right side. The EU needs to deepen, among countries committed to shared democratic values, not broaden to include more gangster states.

        • Hungary and Poland are among the highest growing economies in Europe for years. Romania and Bulgaria have all the institutional problems they have and yet nobody seems to put them on any kind of black list since their leaders know it pays to toe the line. Their people are in the streets and it barely gets a mention in the foreign media. That’s all you need to know about the state of the EU.

          • There needs to be some kind of sanction mechanism for countries like POL, HUN and (not sure but seems like it) MLT that backslide from democracy – BUL and ROM were not close to being admitted in the first place, a farce. Thankfully France and Austria put a stop to admitting Erdoland.

            • Bulgaria and Romania progressed with EU integration because of NATO integration.. It was almost inseparable in their cases..in Romania NATO Base is very huge, it is country which borders Moldova and Ukraine, very important for NATO… ;)

          • “Hungary and Poland are among the highest growing economies in Europe for years.”

            I wonder if that would work out like that without EU funds…

        • Brexit ;)

    • The Bulgarian demonstrations have been covered on Tagesschau several times in the past few weeks.

      • Why is the cathedral of Roman Catholic Diocese of Rottenburg-Stuttgart, St. Martin’s Cathedral in Rottenburg and not some cathedral in Stuttgart? Is Rottenburg bigger catholic center than Stuttgart?
        Have you ever been to Hildesheim Cathedral (UNESCO)? <3
        I think that Roman Catholic Diocese of Mainz is the oldest one in Germany, but I'm not sure, do you know maybe? Have you ever been to Mainz Cathedral?

        • So many questions. :)

          1. The cathedral of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Rottenburg-Stuttgart is located in Rottenburg am Neckar because Stuttgart is a historically protestant, in parts even puritan, city.
          2. Of course I have been to Hildesheim. Who wouldn’t want to see those bronze doors? :) Besides the two churches listed on the UNESCO list Hildesheim also has a picturesque town center with many half-timbered houses, especially around the market square.
          3. As far as I know, Trier is the oldest diocese in Germany. (It’s a UNESCO WH site too because of the Roman heritage). And I have been to Mainz several times, last year f. e., when I visited Speyer, Worms and Mainz Cathedrals.

        • Rottenburg, on the other hand, was an Austrian city until the early 19th century. That’s the reason the town remained Catholic.

          • Thank you very much, very useful information!!
            You are a star!
            Now it is clear why Catholic Cathedral in Stuttgart really seems small and somehow strange for such a big city (compare to majority of other German cities)..
            Hmmm really interesting, how comes that part on the triangle between NED – GER – BEL was one of the earliest center of Chriatianity in Europe (Maastricht, Aachen, Trier…) :O
            To which diocese belongs Frankfurt am Main?

            • The Roman colonies and cities along the Rhine were an early centre of Christianity in the late Roman Empire, and Aachen later became huuuge when Charlemagne made the city his favourite Pfalz. :)
              FFM is part of Limburg.

            • Small, strange and ugly. LOL

  3. I will be insanely busy work-wise until mid-November. :(
    Looking forward to meeting you again under grey skies. :)

  4. I’ve heard news from Bosnia & Herzegovina – it seems that their government has given 30 days to BHRT to make an action plan of repaying their debt to EBU within 12 months, before government can alocate any more funds.
    Resolving their debt would clear the way for them to return in 2022. ❤🇧🇦❤

  5. Watching PAOK V Benfica atm… Jan Vertongen is an eye candy :P

  6. Ppl on street in Spain stopped a police to arrest the woman for not wearing the mask..
    They are shouting: “Libertad, libertad” and throwing the mask…
    In Spain ppl are really tired of lockdowns, they simply do not want that any more.

    • Marko, the oldest Portuguese church, according to what I’ve read, is in Lamego and it is the Chapel of São Pedro Balsemão. All the oldest standing churches in Portugal are in the North. I visitied the Chapel you mentioned with my parents when I was a child. I must go there now as an adult. Lamego is a lovely town near the Douro River; it has many churches and chapels; the most famous is the Santuário de Nossa Senhora dos Remédios:

      • Thank you! What a beautiful place!! Very interesting, based on some claims the Chapel of São Frutuoso in Braga is dated on 560 AD, and Chapel of São Pedro Balsemão in Lamego on 588 AD, but it is not totally sure because it is based on oral tradition and some historical accounts, but not on some serious archaeological investigations…
        And yes I see that in the North are the oldest sacral object in Portugal, but Latin Patriarchate of Lisbon was also formed in the 4th century as The diocese of Lisbon just as dioceses in the North of Portugal…so who knows… :D

    • People are getting tired here as well, but everyone keeps wearing the famous masks. Spain is a very different place.

  7. Greece is bracing for the first (and hopefully last Medicane of the season). If provisional models are going to be confirmed, Western and South regions of the country will see unprecedented amounts of rain and gast winds.
    As if all things were fine here…

  8. Duplantis is so amazing! Considering the long French tradition of pole vaulting, I kinda wished he’d jump for France, but regardless, a wonderful athlete! <3

  9. now

  10. My former ETSC entrant Ladaniva released new single. If they did it earlier would prefer this one.

  11. G O O S E B U M B S !!!
    Please, ditch Stefania and send them!

  12. Guess what’s back!? It’s…

    ESC Song of the day: Vânia Fernandes – Senhora do Mar (Negras águas), 🇵🇹 Portugal 2008

  13. Hi guys,

    I am Manuel, I started this site many years ago ;) Now I am running an online contest (all year round) and I thought you may be interested in participating:

    https://eurovisiononlinecontest.wordpress.com/

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