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ET Awards 2019: and the Frida goes to…


Eurovision 2019 – This year we resumed the “Eurovision Times Awards” to give prizes (the Fridas) for the best in every category! And you got to vote! ET regular members made recommendations and open polls were open for a full week and winners were announced. Discover the full results!

Good evening Europe! Welcome to our 6th edition of the Eurovision Times Awards. We will be deserving 18 Fridas tonight, after a month of exciting votes! Stay tune for the first award!

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Best Female vocals

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Zlata Ognevich (Ukraine, 2013), Ilse DeLange (Netherlands, 2014), Aminata Savadogo (Latvia, 2015), Dami Im (Australia, 2016), O’G3NE (Netherlands, 2017) and Elina Nechayeva (Estonia, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Tamara Todevska of North Macedonia! This is North Macedonia’s second Frida ever, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 85 recommendations for 12 countries in the first round and 147 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Male vocals

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Eythor Ingi (Iceland, 2013), Sergej Ćetković (Montenegro, 2014), Gianluca Ginoble, Ignazio Boschetto, Piero Barone (Italy, 2015), Justs Sirmais (Latvia, 2016), Kristian Kostov (Bulgaria, 2017) and Eugent Bushpepa (Albania, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Duncan Laurence of the Netherlands! This is Netherlands’ 13th Frida ever, the first in this category, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 82 recommendations for 14 countries in the first round and 147 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Lyrics

The five entries nominated were:

  • Hungary‘s lyrics by Ferenc Molnár
  • Italy‘s lyrics by Dardust & Mahmood
  • Netherlands‘ lyrics by Duncan Laurence, Joel Sjöö & Wouter Hardy
  • Portugal‘s lyrics by Conan Osíris
  • Slovenia‘s lyrics by Zala Kralj & Gašper Šantl

Former winners are: “Birds” (Netherlands, 2013), “Calm After The Storm” (Netherlands, 2014), “A Monster Like Me” (Norway, 2015), “No Degree Of Separation” (Italy, 2016), “Occidentali’s Karma” (Italy, 2017) and “Non Mi Avete Fatto Niente” (Italy, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Soldi of Italy! This is Italy’s 9th Frida ever, the first tonight but the fourth in a row for “Lyrics”! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 65 recommendations for 15 countries in the first round and 128 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Composition

The five entries nominated were:

  • Iceland‘s music by Hatari
  • Italy‘s music by Dardust, Mahmood & Charlie Charles
  • Netherlands‘ music by Duncan Laurence, Joel Sjöö & Wouter Hardy
  • Portugal‘s music by Conan Osíris
  • Slovenia‘s music by Zala Kralj & Gašper Šantl

Former winners are: “Birds” (Netherlands, 2013), “Calm After The Storm” (Netherlands, 2014), “Rhythm Inside” (Belgium, 2015), “1944” (Ukraine, 2016), “Amar Pelos Dois” (Portugal, 2017) and “Mercy” (France, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Arcade of the Netherlands! This is Netherlands’ 14th Frida ever, the third in this category, and the second this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 63 recommendations for 14 countries in the first round and 134 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Performance

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Margaret Berger (Norway, 2013), Conchita Wurst (Austria, 2014), Loïc Nottet (Belgium, 2015), Jamala (Ukraine, 2016), Salvador Sobral (Portugal, 2017) and Eleni Foureira (Cyprus, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Hatari of Iceland! This is Iceland’s 3rd Frida ever, the first in this category, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 87 recommendations for 18 countries in the first round and 124 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Props & Gimmicks

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: glass box (Azerbaijan, 2013), hamster wheel (Ukraine, 2014), stick figure (Sweden, 2015), screen (Russia, 2016), scribbled room (Azerbaijan, 2017) and magic wall (Moldova, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Australia‘s sticks! This is Australia’s 3rd Frida ever, the first in this category, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 62 recommendations for 14 countries in the first round and 120 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Female Style

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Zlata Ognevich (Ukraine, 2013), Conchita Wurst (Austria, 2014), Aminata Savadogo (Latvia, 2015), Zoë Straub (Austria, 2016), Alma (France, 2017) and Eleni Foureira (Cyprus, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Kate Miller-Heidke of Australia! This is Australia’s 4th Frida ever, the first in this category, and the second this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 50 recommendations for 17 countries in the first round and 101 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Male Style

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Marco Mengoni (Italy, 2013), Topi Latukka (Finland, 2014), Loïc Nottet (Belgium, 2015), Douwe Bob (Netherlands, 2016), Kristian Kostov (Bulgaria, 2017) and Mikolas Josef (Czech Republic, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Luca Hänni of Switzerland! This is Switzerland’s 2nd Frida ever, the first in this category, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 59 recommendations for 13 countries in the first round and 103 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Backings

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Netherlands (2013), Slovenia (2014), Belgium (2015), Belgium (2016), Moldova (2017) and Israel (2018). And the Frida goes to…

Sweden‘s mamas! This is Sweden’s 3rd Frida ever, the first in this category, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 66 recommendations for 16 countries in the first round and 96 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

 

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Miss Congeniality

The ET webmasters present Miki Núñez of Spain with the “Miss Congeniality 2019” award! Now a short break before we move on to delegation and result awards, with the big “Best Entry” award given last! Stay tune…

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Best Backdrop & Lights

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Hungary (2013), Switzerland (2014), France (2015), Ukraine (2016), Bulgaria (2017) and Ireland (2018). And the Frida goes to…

Netherlands’ ethereal sky! This is Netherlands’ 15th Frida ever, the first in this category, and the third this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 85 recommendations for 24 countries in the first round and 116 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Promotion Video

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Malta (2013), Montenegro (2014), Norway (2015), France (2016), FYR Macedonia (2017) and Israel (2018). And the Frida goes to…

Hatari of Iceland! This is Iceland’s 4th Frida ever, the first in this category, and the second this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 67 recommendations for 19 countries in the first round and 105 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Spokesperson

The five entries nominated were:

  • Australia‘s Electric Fields (voted #23)
  • France‘s Julia Molkhou (voted #37)
  • Germany‘s Barbara Schöneberger (voted #25)
  • Israel‘s Izhar Cohen (voted #41)
  • Sweden‘s Eric Saade (voted #27)

Former winners are: Lena (Germany, 2013), Kati Bellowitsch (Austria, 2014), Nigella Lawson (United-Kingdom, 2015), Verka Serduchka (Ukraine, 2016), Ofer Nachshon (Israel, 2017) and Élodie Gossuin (France, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Barbara Schöneberger of Germany! She has been quite identified with Germany participation in the contest. Unless the EBU changes the voting presentation, this is the last year for this Frida! It is Germany’s third Frida ever and the second in this category! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 33 recommendations for 16 countries in the first round and 69 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best National Final

The five entries nominated were:

  • France‘s Destination Eurovision
  • Hungary‘s A Dal
  • Italy‘s San Remo
  • Portugal‘s Festival da Cação
  • Slovenia‘s EMA

Former winners are: Unser Song für Malmö (Germany, 2013), Uuden Musiikin Kilpailu (Finland, 2014), Melodifestivalen (Sweden, 2015), Eesti Laul (Estonia, 2016), San Remo (Italy, 2017) and Destination Eurovision (France, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

San Remo of Italy! This is Italy’s 10th Frida ever, the second for San Remo, and the second this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 53 recommendations for 14 countries in the first round and 71 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Internal Choice

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Anouk (Netherlands, 2013), The Common Linnets (Netherlands, 2014), Loïc Nottet (Belgium, 2015), Amir Haddad (France, 2016), Blanche (Belgium, 2017) and Eleni Foureira (Cyprus, 2018). And the Frida goes to…

Duncan Laurence of the Netherlands! This is Netherlands’ 16th Frida ever, the third in this category, and the fourth this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 65 recommendations for 10 countries in the first round and 106 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Most Overrated

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Azerbaijan (2013), Russia (2014), Russia (2015), Poland (2016), Australia (2017) and Austria (2018). And the Frida goes to…

Russia‘s 3rd place overall! This is Russia’s 4th Frida ever, the third in this category, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 74 recommendations for 18 countries in the first round and 100 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Most Underrated

The five entries nominated were:

  • Austria‘s 0pt in televote and DNQ in Semi Final 2
  • Poland‘s DNQ in Semi Final 1 because of a mistake
  • Portugal‘s last with juries and DNQ in Semi Final 1
  • Slovenia‘s 15th overall
  • Spain‘s 1pt from juries and 22nd overall

Former winners are: France (2013), Israel (2014), France (2015), Iceland (2016), Finland (2017) and Portugal (2018). And the Frida goes to…

Portugal‘s last with juries and DNQ in Semi Final 1! This is Russia’s 6th Frida ever, the second in this category in a row, and the first this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 88 recommendations for 23 countries in the first round and 103 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Top 5 Entry

The five entries nominated were:

Former winners are: Norway (2013), Netherlands (2014), Belgium (2015), Ukraine (2016), Portugal (2017) and Italy (2018). And the Frida goes to…

The winner from the Netherlands! This is Netherlands’ 17th Frida ever, the second in this category, and the fifth this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 34 recommendations for 5 countries in the first round and 123 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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Best Entry

For the last award, we can nominate between 5 and 10 entries. We decided to nominate the 6 entries with the most nominations, the Top 6 in Premath or the semi-finalists of TEKO. Former winners are: Norway (2013), Netherlands (2014), Belgium (2015), Ukraine (2016), Portugal (2017) and Italy (2018).

We will now reveal them from 6th to 1st! Who won the big award this year?

  • Slovenia 6th

 

  • Portugal 5th

 

  • Switzerland 4th

 

  • Iceland 3rd

 

  • Italy 2nd

 

Arcade” by Duncan Laurence of the Netherlands (2019)

This is Netherlands’ 18th Frida ever, the second in this category, and the sixth this evening! You can click to look at the full recommendations and nominations from last week’s article here! There were 57 recommendations for 13 countries in the first round and 133 votes were cast in an open poll, in exactly one week, among the 5 nominees. The complete detailed results will be announced once all Fridas are rewarded.

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  • 2019: Netherlands (6), Italy (2), Iceland (2), Australia (2), North Macedonia (1), Switzerland (1), Sweden (1), Russia (1), Portugal (1), Germany (1)

Some records overall (2013-2018):

  • Nominations: Italy (39), Sweden (33), Netherlands (32), France (28), Norway (28), Hungary (27), Belgium (25), Azerbaijan (24), Ukraine (21)
  • Wins: Netherlands (18), Italy (10), France (9), Belgium (9), Ukraine (9), Portugal (6), Austria (5), Norway (5), Australia (4), Israel (4), Russia (4)

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  1. OK: A belated attempt at answering some of these polls, but based on my memories of the show. It won’t count of course, but these are my thoughts.

    Best female vocals: Greece. Not necessarily the best singer on a solely technical level, but her voice has a lot of character. The singers from f.e. Australia and North Macedonia are clearly not bad, but nothing really interesting about them.

    Best male vocals: I don’t really recall any remarkable male vocals, but I remember Duncan Lawrence is a fine singer, despite my reservations towards the song.

    Best lyrics: I recall the Portuguese lyrics as quite interesting.

    Best composition: It is actually a difficult thing to answer as it is very much a matter of definition. The – if I may say so – classical definition would be song structure (form, melody, chords), but that’s a very traditional Western definition which is mainly based on the classical music tradition. There are entries that aren’t necessarily made that way, such as the Portuguese song. Here it is more about soundscape, but that’s an important part of the music too. So: in the wider sense, I would say Portugal, but in the classic sense, not necessarily. Perhaps North Macedonia would be a bid.

    Best performance: A matter of definition too. Probably Slovenia (very tense and intimate). Portugal would qualify again actually. I don’t like all the spectacular pomp and circumstances usually associated with the contest these days, but in the Portuguese performance there was some weirdness, and that is almost a positive thing in itself – as it makes you wonder what is going on, and thus: think about it with a critical distance.

    Best props and gimmicks: None. Did any of them actually make any artitic sense?

    Best female style: N/A (I think I better not express my view on the one that won that category)

    Best male style: N/A, and I can’t see the attraction in the ones nominated.

    Best backings: If it means backing vocals, I’d say Sweden. Very good singing though I am not really fond of gospel.

    Best backdrops and lights: I don’t remember them well enough to say something meaningful here.

    Best promotion video: N/A

    Best spokesperson: N/A. I wouldn’t mind going back to just announcing the votes via telephone. I don’t like all the circus, it seems very fake to me.

    Best national final: N/A. Haven’t seen them

    Best internal choice: Poland.

    Most overrated: There are so many of them, but I will say Switzerland. I mean, the song has no musical and artistic substance whatsoever, it is based on clichés (the 4 Chord Song progression in particular), and the package as a whole seems rather enervating to me. For me it is fast food music at its worst. And yet a lot of fans seem to love it.

    Very sad to see Denmark among the nominated. It is clearly a much better composition than f.e. Switzerland. It has much more melodic substance, plus the backing track is made with real instruments. I still like it musically, even if I don’t like the lyrics.

    Most underrated. Poland!

    Best top 5: Probably Italy. Not that I am crazy about it. I still can’t forgive that the vocals were autotuned in the studio version :(

    Best entry: Portugal.

    • I admire you effort. ESC 2019 was mostly about the NFs for me. The show itself had few interesting songs and I ended up feeling quite indifferent towards the whole thing. Let’s hope for a better crop next year.

    • I’d like to add Denmark to the Composition category too. Kind of forgot about it. It has some fine elements, both in the melody and the chords.

    • Denmark qualified because of a mistake by a Russian jury who ranked it last but voted for it first by mistake (his votes were counted in reverse); in the final he had it last again. With his “correct” votes, it was proven by fans online that Lithuania would have qualified instead. That is why it was nominated for most overrated, considering it qualified thanks to a mistake and still ended up 12th.

      • It’s extremely sad if it qualified because of that. I still think it’s a fine song in terms of music.

        • Really? I’m surprised by that. I find it no offense so generic that I would have blindly picked it out of 100 random English-language pre-selections from all over the place as Denmark (which I guess is a plus for marketing)… it’s a children’s song. What do you like about it? I’m genuinely curious.

          • Well there are sevaral aspects. F.e. the melody: it’s much more dynamic than most of the other songs. Take f.e. the way it ends at the end of the chorus. Harmonically I’ll take the shift from C major to E major in the verse (if the main key is C). Traditionally you’d expect the E major to lead to an A minor (being the dominant of A), but instead we go back to C major. Then the pizzicato strings are very tasteful, and the overall soundscape, played with real instruments, are a relief towards all the computer generated stuff with the same presets in most of the other songs.

            • Thanks for sharing that – I’ve to concede my ears aren’t nearly as well trained plus that i never saw more than 1 minute of the song because it, the singer and the performance/stagimng were just intolerably sweet to me. It’s almost a physical reaction I have to it, similar to the drunk-guy-at-the-comapny-party from Spain and the screeching child prostitute from Belarus. But then again I love Switzerland, which you dislike intensely – that’s the great thing here IMO you can chat and exchange views with people with totally different outlooks and approaches. I find that much more interesting than the echo chamber on other sites.

        • That’s fair! It’s also in my Top 18

    • I have a strong dislike for the Swiss song, which sounds hollow and generic to me. On the other hand, Luca came across as so likeable and enthusiastic on the Tel Aviv stage that I eventually forgot about the song and wished him all the best …
      Switzerland hasn’t made it into my top 10 though.
      And oh my, what a weak line-up when you consider picking the very conventional piano and strings ballad from North Macedonia for best composition…

      • Another dark, vapid and shallow day in the history of the contest. Thank God we had Portugal’s dinosaur costumes, the Danish song, La venda and s!stärZ. Otherwise the contest and this biased and failing blog would have been consigned to the dustbin of history.

        • There is no need to get all worked up. I am not a music expert like Anders and can’t judge the quality of songs. I can only say what I enjoy and what I don’t and give the reasons therefore. I wish that this was the Eurovision Poetry Contest because I would be on top of things then. ;)

          • I just wish people would stop getting so dramatic about things.

            • Was I being dramatic? I don’t think so. :) But I can become quite dramatic when it comes to literature. :) Wanna discuss ‘Paradise Lost’? <3
              *faints*

            • No, you weren’t… I just find it quite interesting how most people will rush to defend their country/their fave song with pseudo-rational arguments. Germans, for all our many faults, are on the whole an exception, being more likely to tear down their song or team. If we were fans from almost any other country we’d steadfastly argue that s!sterZ was such a mess deliberately to subconsciously illustrate alienation due to the repression of the patriarchy. Which, cum oooon it was! Right?

            • I don’t see this attitude on ET, with one or two exceptions. ET rocks!
              And LOL to your s!sterZ interpretation. Need to go now. Guads Nächtle … Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

            • Sogni d’oro-s!sterZ xx

            • so did you see the coming out in ep. 7? :p

            • OMG I have to get to that… I’ve to admit for the first time in the series I’ve sort of lost interest because I don’t care about the monster III or Russian spy storylines. But this will help me move on!

            • I have often fallen out of series and I lose interest very easily, especially if I am very busy at some point and can’t watch regularly a show. So I either binge all or stop watching after a while. The “it’s all out in one go” really helps, and a summer release is even better! AHS, Gotham and of course GoT I have all fallen into that category. However, I binge “The Other Two”, “Now Apocalypse” or “Stranger Things” lately!

            • Yeah I either try to watch a show as it comes out when I like it (e,g, The other two – very funny!) or if I have the whole season I’ll watch 2 or 3 episodes a day. The good ones often have recap blogs so I’ll read those after watching an episode; esp. the comments often have some interesting insights – so that can slow down my pace. I dropped AHS during freak show, which was a mess and when Jessica Lange left, the main draw was gone for me. Going to stick with Stranger things 3 for the last 4 episodes since it is entertaining; I just hope it’ll become less of a caper comedy. Stopped Big little lies 2 since there’s really not much of a story that interests me and too much neurotic hand-wringing by neurotic housewives with too much time on their hands. I think I’ll watch Years and years next.

      • I kind of regret picking NM, mainly for the same reasons. The music sounded well crafted to me. In any case find the song’s clichéd pathos very shallow. It is very much a product of a world where depth and layers in meaning are replaced by smart one-word slogans with a # in front of the word. The words in the song might as well have been on a H&M poster or something like that.

        Unfortunately being a likeable person is not enough when it comes to appreciating art.

        • Well, we sort of agree but I would phrase my thoughts in a more positive way. I have been a fan of Tamara’s work for may years and really love several of her songs that aren’t related to ESC. That’s the reason I was very disappointed when I first heard ‘Proud’. A generic ballad with simplistic lyrics? WTF :( German commentator Peter Urban, who is always very subtle, commented after Tamara’s performance: “Tamara Todevska and her magificently executed appeal.” Appeal … not song … otrart. Mr. Urban was spot on once again. It’s a pity and not a good sign for ESC that ‘Proud’ probably is among the 10 best compositions this year despite all the song’s weak points (originality, lyrics) …
          Regarding Tamara’s character, before Tel Aviv I did not know anything about her beyond her music. I am not interested in gossip and yellow press stuff.

          • I didn’t even know there is gossip and yellow press stuff written about her. She has been in ESC before, no? (I am better at remembering songs than artist names)

            • She was in 2008 and came 10th in her semi-final but the juries decided to send Sweden to the final instead. We had this silly rule back then, that 9 songs were decided by televoting and the 10th finalist was the song ranked highest by the juries that wasn’t in the televoting top 10.
              I would expect there to be considerable coverage of Tamara’s life in the North Macedonian media. She is their most popular singer after all and very popular in Serbia too.

            • Ah, that’ll be “Let Me Love You” then. Unfortunately I don’t like that one very much. I find it a weak composition, and even though I am not a fan of “Hero” (mostly because of its overall sterileness), I think its a better crafted composition with a good overall dynamics. My biggest problem with it – as you can probably guess – is the fact that the chorus is based on the four chord song progression. I xcan kind of forgive it in this case due to the strength of the melody, but it would have made a poor contest winner.

            • I really like “Let Me Love You”. :)
              Many people found the performance messy but to me it came across as lively,authentic and likeable. I don’t listen to “Let Me Love You” in studio version but enjoy watching the Belgrade performance now and then. “Hero” is a big no from me. After 15 seconds you know what the rest of the song will sound like. Swedish pop done by numbers. I very much prefer Charlotte’s 1999 winner.

            • Well Hero is not exactly original, but neither is the 1999 winner. It is little more than an Abba style exercise.

            • ‘Proud’ is fine imo, but ‘Let Me Love You’ is unbearable. Her sister did esc too, with “Too the Sky” in 2014

            • I wouldn’t call it unbearable. I can easily listen to it and watch it without feeling uncomfortable or something like that, I just don’t think it’s a good song.

              It’s different with “To the Sky” though, which is a song I can’t stand.

  2. I’ve just noticed that Iceland was the 3rd best entry! Congratulations to all the winners.

    I have to go now. I’ll try not to miss the next edition of ETSC.

  3. So when can we expect ETSC to start? :)

  4. Current electoral mode:

  5. I think the Netherlands was a bit overrated, but that is to be expected considering they won for the year. Looking forward to the next edition now.

  6. On a sad note: João Gilberto, the composer who created bossa nova, died. I love his work very much. RIP and thank you for all those great songs.

  7. Happy voting to our Greek friends. s!stärZ Angela and Ursula are watching with clever ideas for Mitsotakis, I’m sure. Also fuck Golden Dawn, hope they do poorly.

  8. Duncan did really well I am glad. I agree or have no problem with the majority of those awards.

  9. According to first exit polls in Greece, the Conservatives win the absolute majority 11-12% ahead of Syriza.

  10. Good game to the Netherlands. In all honesty, I was rooting for you guys throughout the whole game.

    • Just think of the delightful headache this will cause the orange menace as he desperately scrambles to come out as a “winner”. It can invite the team and be snubed or ignore them to show further evidence of his sexism and inabiliyt to accept any kind of criticism. Not that it or its cult members mind the latter.

      • That is true, but I have picked up this mindset from my Brazilian friend. She always roots against Brazil in international competitions like these because if they win, suddenly the Brazilian government and other Brazilians hail Brazil as the best country in the world, even though they actively ignore how much people are struggling in the country, and they continue to refuse to do anything about it.

        It’s the same thing here. Whenever we do well in the Olympics, win a major international sporting competition, or anything else, our politicians and other prominent people hail the U.S. as the best country in the world, even though people here are starving to death and are unable to live, and these prominent people are profiting off of it and refusing to take action. I cannot support this country until we begin supporting our own people.

        • Yeah but since these are “only girls” the deplorable-in-chief and his followers won’t even consider it an achievement worthy of celebrating. Just the fact that there is a World Cup for women is a poke in their eye.
          That said, the team doesn’t seem especially likeable. But pro jocks rarely are.

          • Hmm, I don’t know about that. Women’s football often gets more attention than men’s in the U.S. because soccer is deemed a “girl’s sport” and our women’s team is far better than our men’s, even though they’re still paid less (which is a whole other argument). I can support the team as individuals (Megan Rapinoe and Alex Morgan are actually quite famous celebrities), but I don’t think I can support any team with “USA” written across their uniforms until this country sees some massive structural change.

            • I get that. They actually seem surprisingly articulate for team sports players; most of them just rattle off the phrases their PR consultant made them memorize or say stupid stuff.

            • Yeah, I enjoy most of our women’s team as individuals. Hope Solo used to be a big celebrity here too until she went crazy. I don’t think I could name any American male soccer player though; they are not well-known at all, and not anywhere near our women’s team. But, again, our women’s team is still paid less. So sad.

        • Sports is the opium of the people in the 21st century …

  11. Hello guys! Haven’t been active here lately. I got back home from Frankfurt yesterday. Congrats to the Frida winners! Can’t wait for ETSC to begin 😏

  12. Duncan and Tom Hugo’s Keiino in beloved German show Fernsehgarten this morning! Duncan at 56:20, Keiino at 02:09:30 – you can probably skip the rest:
    https://www.zdf.de/show/zdf-fernsehgarten/190707-sendung-fsg-102.html

    • I started watching it but then decided to wai for the inevitable clips on youtube. There is also a cute muscled guy with a harnass however.

      • Timecode?? I just copied this from an EK post, couldn’t make myself watch the show… Tom Hugo in white sleeveless at CGN Pride today btw but waiting for better clip to share.

        • For example right at the start at 4:24

          • He’s nice! I hope Greece sends him in 2020; I prefer their entries like that.
            I was amazed to see that show went on for alnost 2 1/2 hours, in many ways it’s the heir of the old Saturday night shows I guess. The wit of Rudi Carrell or Hans Rosenthal replaced by generic phony cheerfulness. She’s like the La venda of German TV.

            • He is Greek?
              To be honest, I found it too much of an ordeal to watch the entire show waiting for a performance that would be uploaded on youtube anyway. But it is rather popular I heard.

            • I’ve no idea; just looks like the typical Greek singer/back-up dancer lol… the show’s popular mainly among older people (and my ex). I think it’s great for its audience, I just prefer scripted over unscripted TV. And I hate the host; she is phony even by unscripted standards. She actually got suspended twice for promoting Weighwatchers and some other brands.

  13. Last night, Ludwigsburg saw the music fireworks with are staged in the Palace Grounds every summer.The tradition goes back to the times when te Kings of Wurttemberg resided in LuBu. It is a total waste of money and bad for the environment … but very beautiful. LOL I think that it is a quite singular event … I didn’t see it this year because I was hiking inn the Black Forest. Unfortunately, the sounnd quality is awful but I want to share it ayway in case we have fireworks fans here. It is impressive, to put it mildly.

  14. Very sad results in Greece but at least the neo nazi party did not make it this time around.

    • People are silly everywhere. As soon as anyone claims to have found the magic money tree, votes will flow his or her way.
      I salute Mr. Tsipras, who remained calm and pragmatic throughout a very difficult time in Greek history.

      • Its just that among the countries that went through a financial crisis and a bailout Greece is the only one so far to vote back in office those who contributed in creating part of the mess and with a member of a political “dynasty” of some kind. Such elections that provide single party governments led by certain families for decades is more reminiscent of illiberal eastern european and asian ex soviet nations rather than what Greece strives to be imo. I heard that they have an electoral law that gives a bonus of 50 (!!) seats out of 300 to the party that wins the election.

        Mr. Tsipras made a lot of mistakes and changed a lot in the course of years but he delivered a strong economy. Now they voted for social conservatism combined with fiscal liberalism aka a trumpian inspired outcome (for european standards). I ll never understand people honestly.

        At least Mr. Tsipras did not adopt some far right rhetoric on immigration as the danish social democrats did to win elections. Mette Frederiksen could easily pass for a member of the DPP at times.

        • I absolutely agree. Very sad results in Greece.
          I can’t believe that they’ve actually elected the party who got them in trouble in the first place, a bureaucratic dynasty of the past!

          Mr. Tsipras made very difficult decisions in impossible times.
          His decline in popularity in recent years was expected, precisely because of these decisions, yet he never resorted to nationalistic rhetoric (which can always bring some points in societies that go through difficult times).

          I hope that Greece will continue its economic growth, and that New Democracy will turn a new page and lead a different policy from the one they had before.

      • In the case of the right wing magic money tree is what they call tax cuts. What they dont mention is the impact of such cuts to debt and fiscal balance and who is going to benefit by them (see Trump and the regan-era tale of trickle down economics…)

      • It’ll be the usual pattern – the conservatives will splurge esp. on tax cuts and subsidies for the rich; then later the left will have to clean it up. I really don’t understand why conservatives are seen as the fiscally responsible ones any more; it’s always the same.

      • Come again?

    • The Greek media have always made a massive propaganda in favor of conservatives, here.
      I’m actually quite surprised, Mr Tsipras almost managed to maintain his percentages from 2015 !

      • The most surprising thing to me is this pattern of single party governments. Maybe it is the nature of governance here but from my perspective this is unthinkable, that people would give so much power to one party. Cant think of a better invitation to institutional corruption.

      • And I am also learning that former models and other ”celebrities” have secured places as MPs….:s

        • So Greece is becoming like Italy or the US?

          • It has always been like that. Actors that couldn’t secure jobs anymore turned to MPs for left and center-left parties, while former OIympic medalists turnd to center-right ND,

            • Interesting – here in Germany people like that usually get thrown into endlessly recycled reality-TV formats.
              Wasn’t Melina Mercouri in politics for a while?

            • Mercouyri might be the only serious actor politician. She served as culture minister and a lot of good things about that sector and as you might know she initiated the idea of repatriating the Parthenon marbles.

            • I do remember reading about that! I also thought she was great in Never on Sunday and Stella.
              I think there’s something to be said for some “celebrities” entering politics esp. when they are passionate about sth. and have the expertise and willingness to learn about the political process. I think the absolute worst to go into politics are businessmen. While few can be as bad as Trump, most share a similar outlook of being top-down rather than consensus-seeking and they are driven by “winning”/profit maximization thinking rather than seeking out compromises. Which of course is why they tend to enter politics as conservatives.

            • A prime example of this, is of course Maggie, and she wasn’t even a businesswoman!

            • She had the successful businessman’s frequent characteristic of being a scoiopath, however!

            • Actually there is one actor and a singer elected with Syriza, one model/actress and a footballer elected with New Democracy, one actress with the communists and one actor with Varoufakis. I don’t remember any other cases. There are always some celebrities voted in due to name recognition, however there were a lot more in the lists that did not actually make it.

            • Kourkoula with PASOK some years ago, Kleon Grigoriadis currently serving, Pyrros Dimas sometime ago too and Sakorafa with SYRIZA.

            • Sakorafa and Grigoriadis are both with Varoufakis now, who is the ultimate celebrity anyway :-P Dimas is no longer in politics, there was an olympic medalist who tried to get elected in the europarliament with Syriza but failed. Kourkoula is like ancient history :)

            • Still they used to be MPs that’s why I included them.

      • I was horrified to see that Mr. Mitsotakis took an oath in the presence of several priests!
        It seemed to me that they even participated in the process. (?!)
        Is that usual in Greece? Frankly, it looks creepy.

        • Well, conservative parties go well with religion, no? :P

          • They do, I know :-((
            But taking an oath should be a predetermined process, regardless of who the winning party is.

            I must say I was very shocked. :-(

            • The idea of taking oath is so weird to me anyway as a Frenchman and our very secular Republic… only in trials we have to swear the truth and we swear on our honor so that if then we lie we can be penalized

        • “I was horrified to see that Mr. Mitsotakis took an oath in the presence of several priests!”

          I couldn’t agree more. :(

        • Horrified, yes. Surprised, no. Actually I’m surprised the oath wasn’t administered by conservatives’ gods like someone from Goldman Sachs or Exxon.

        • Horrified? Wow, what a strong choice of words :-D Imagine if out of everything that happens in the world, the killing, the raping, the pillaging, the rapaciousness, pollution and greed, this is what you find “creepy”.

          By the way, this has always been the predetermined process until a civilian oath option was given. It is a ritual whose only purpose is to provide a sense of solemnity, like the monarchy is in several countries.

          • My words may be strong because I am very sensitive to prospect of religion or religious leaders being introduced in state institutions. :-)

            I am very sad to see that in many countries they still put their hands on the Bible (instead of Constitution), and say: “So help me god”, including in court proceedings. And it even happens in the USA, which is the cradle of democracy.

            I sincerely, and with all my heart, believe in values of Liberal Democracy, as the only system that has proven to provide peace, personal freedoms, prosperity and development.

            And in Liberal democracy there is no place for religion in state institutions.

            The things that you have mentioned, that are happening in today’s world are terrible, but one has to wonder how how do conflicts arise, and how do wars emerge.

            Democracies do not attack each other. They do not diminish personal freedoms. They do not encourage violence.
            Authoritarian (very often nationalistic) regimes, do.

            Very often with help of religious leaders.

            • Democracies like England and France have colonised the world only a few decades ago and that has led to a lot of conflicts. We all believe in peace and freedom but treating ideologies as religion (whether that is liberalism, marxism or whatever) and putting them in its place appears to me like another self-defeating concept for humanity. A new bad idea that merely replaces an old bad idea.

            • @Michos – actually I’d argue religions are ideologies (and often vice versa): They share the savior figure and promise of salvation based on a defined system of beliefs.

  15. Mariah gets the bottle cup challenge to a whole new level:

  16. ETSC2: Iceland
    ETSC3: Norway
    ETSC4: UK
    ETSC5: Greece
    ETSC6: Morocco
    ETSC7: Jordan
    ETSC8: Portugal
    ETSC9: Lithuania
    ETSC10: Italy
    ETSC11: ?

  17. And finally we have a drop out in the primaries. Hopefully a lot more will follow suit.

    • Who’s first?

      • One of the congressmen nobody outside of their district knows. Fear not, the new age spiritual adviser (a s!ster?) is still all in!

        • Yep, Eric Swalwell (Representative from California) dropped out. He was going to be excluded from the July debate because of a tiebreaker and never would have made the September debate so it was a good move on his part to drop out and focus on his reelection campaign instead. Williamson the soul s!ster is still in, and it seems she has no plans on dropping out any time soon (I actually know a good amount of people who like her lol).

          • Williamson will never drop out as long as she gets a microphone; every bit of gibberish she spouts will help her save another book or video or podcast or whatever she’s peddling. Surreally, she’s still more coherent than the “president”.

            • Hearing Williamson speak makes me feel as if I’m watching a comedy, and not an actual presidential candidate. She’s definitely entertaining (I’m exciting to see her performance in the next debates), but the fact that there are people who want to elect her is frightening.

            • Disaffected female tRump voters? Not seriously but I’m sure some pundit will come up with that theory.
              Right now I like Warren best – it’s exciting how my preferences keep changing this season actually! My concern is that she’s the type of candidate (Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerrey, Hillary…) that we always lose with because “you can’t have a beer with her”.

            • From what I’ve seen, everyone who likes Williamson are girls who are into astrology and want to be hippies and aren’t ~super~ into politics. Thankfully that isn’t a powerful voting bloc. Warren is my pick right now too. She is polling well against Trump, but I worry for the same things you worry for. Her “I have a plan for that” approach seems to be doing well, and a lot of ex-Trump voters in the Rust Belt seem to like her.

            • LOL we all have friends – and exes – into astrology, explaining our lives to us ;-).
              Interesting we both shifted to Warren as first choice; of course that may be a sign her candidacy is doomed as she is upported by the “liberal coastal elite”. Personally I think a piece of wood should beat tRump but unfortunately much of the population seems to have gone mad. I can just see the attack ads “Harvard intellectual Elizabeth Warren stole a job from regular folks by lying about being an ‘Injun'”. I’ll never understand why the Dems didn’t non-stop run (true) ads of small business owners talking about being ruined by orange moron not paying them for their work in 2016.

            • My two best friends are super into astrology (one of them now loves Williamson), and it is exhausting having to hear them explain to me why I’m the way I am because of a pisces (it gets even more unbearable when they try to justify their bad behavior with their astrological sign lol).

              Agreed, we all thought Hillary would beat Trump but here we are now. Polls really cannot always be trusted, and this “coastal elite” categorization is exhausting and frustrating since me and my family would be considered “coastal elites” and generally happen to support these “coastal elite” politicians. I guess I can’t speak to Middle America since that’s not me, but how about you just support politicians with plans to actually help you? Warren is one of those politicians, regardless of her background and “coastal elite” status. Her whole Native American controversy is exhausting to me. Research showed that she never received preferential treatment for her “race” and was simply raised her entire life to believe she was part Native American – I asked my grandparents and they told me people were not aware that tribal citizenship existed until recently, as Native Americans were very underrepresented. This is a mistake that millions of Americans make, she shouldn’t receive the treatment she’s receiving for it. Trump is the one calling her Pocahontas, which is incredibly racist and offensive to Native Americans. But I digress, it’s still early in the race and I truly think Warren is the one who may be able to do it, but I guess we need to see how the rest of her campaign goes.

              Billionaire hedge fund manager Tom Steyer announced his campaign today. How exhausting. Can people stop announcing candidacies and, more importantly, can rich people with no political experience stop thinking they’re fit to run for president.

  18. Ηm. No news yet about about ETSC. I would suggest having only one edition in August considering Morgan has to go on holiday on the 27th.

  19. a bit off topic, but Rosa wants to make a comeback at ESC 2020
    http://www.eltelevisero.com/2019/07/rosa-lopez-se-postula-para-eurovision-2020/

  20. Trying to lure Morgan into revealing more about ETSC 11:

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