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Montenegro: Who Are Who See?


who_see_ninaMontenegro – Today’s featured artist is Montenegro’s Who See. They will be this year’s entry for their home country along with pop singer Nina Žižić. They are a hip-hop Klapa duo from the Bay of Kotor consisting of Dedduh (Dejan Dedović) and Noyz (Mario Đorđević). They have teamed up with Nina to sing ‘Igranka‘ (The Dance) this year. Who See was created in early 2000s, recording their first demo track titled “Dim po dim” (“Puff after puff“). Noyz and Dedduh had guest appearances on Serbian hip-hop compilation “Ulice vol.1“, and ‘Sve same barabe‘, an album by 43Zla. In 2007, they released their debut album ‘Sviranje kupcu‘.

Igranka’ is a song written by Who See and Wikluh Sky, and features vocals from Montenegrin singer Nina Žižić. The song will compete in the first semi-final on 14 May 2013. Is Europe ready for this contemporary entry. Last year’s Montenegrin entry by Rambo Amadeus did not win the hearts of the voters, will this hip-hop/dance track do so instead?

Who See’s Facebook page is here. You can follow them on Twitter at @Who_See_Klapa

Nina Zizic, who will singing along with Who See, was born on April 20, 1985) and is from Niksic, Montenegro. After high school, she enrolled in the Faculty of English Studies and Literature at the Montenegro University in Niksic. Her first appearance was at the age of 10, on the local TV station, where she impersonated famous singers and actors. Parallel to her school, she studied dance, and won many first prizes on various dance competitions in Serbia and Montenegro. She came 2nd in a national music competition when she was 17 years old, and then won an international music festival in Bosnia and Herzegovina. She joined the band, Negre, which entered
Evropjesma 2005 but broke up the next year. Her solo career took off in 2007 when she hit the charts.

Nina describes herself as ‘Born to express, not to impress’ and can be followed on Twitter: @ninazizc1. Her Facebook page is here.

The threesome have just performed ‘Igranka‘ live in a club. Check out the performance:

Here’s the official video:

Sources: Wiki, Facebook

73 comments on “Montenegro: Who Are Who See?

  1. Goodluck, one of my favorites!

  2. I love these…. Who See and PeR are on the top of my list of ones to meet next month

  3. “Today’s featured artist is Macedonia’s Who See.”

    I think you meant Montenegro’s..

    On them as artists : their style is definately my cup of tea, same as their song. Good luck !

    • *definately NOT my cup of tea

      oh, and I like Nina Zizic a lot more though, she boosts the entry to something listenable at least imo.

  4. This is one of the live performances and stage presentations I am very curious about. The live rendition featured above sounds promising. Montenegro will probably climb a few places on my list. I like PeR as well, Jade. ‘Sad Trumpet’ is simple one of the best songs of the season, Latvia 13 is my current nº 10 and I like ‘Disco superfly’ as well. Wish them luck for me!

  5. This has HIT and CURRENT written all over it ( Other countries should take a lesson , hear me Slovenia , UK , Belgium , Armenia ? )
    And the LIVE snippet sounds very promising !!!
    Go Montenegro !

    • Also a lot of countries would rather to take a lesson aswell sending different songs and genres and not only safe-cards “Dancy pop-folk pop”!

      • No need to become bitchy :P
        And if you refer to GRE 13 , do you seriously think we have sent a song like AIF before? LOL !
        It features rock , ska and rebetiko! The only common factor with our previous entries is the folk one , of which I am proud as well because it’s done in creative and honest way unlike our 2012 travesty…Of course that’s only my opinion !

        • Thanks for your opinion about my metamorphose! I just shared my opinon focusing on necessity of diversity! Wonder how you guessed which ESC country I mean, but well! I kind a liked creative lifting of 2009 and creative dance of 2010 I have nothing against it (kind a liked it) but would like to see diversity and “One Last Kiss” could be the one but it wasn’t enough safe I guess!

          • And you think a song with a title “Alcohol is free” is more safe for juries? Lol !
            If Greeks wanted safe ( result-wise ) we would have chosen the jazzy song in English you mention sung by the beautiful girl !You don’t make sense HERE !
            Yes we send a folk oriented song once again ( MILES above anything we used to send in the past , if we talk about musical credibility imo ) , but honestly NOT a safe one !

            • We have different opinions here! For different reasons IMO in ESC uptempo fun folk influanced songs sung by “brutal machos with gum in their mouths” will get more votes then jazzy one even if performer is beuatiful! Well people love songs about alcohol they are all very creative but my favorite one is this:

            • And borrowing U.S. American styles is so incredibly daring and innovative these days. Shame on everyone that has not dissociate themselves from anything that is related to their own culture yet! LOL.

            • ESC can’t be a folk festival! There must be a diversity! I prefer more folk songs but have nothing against good material in different genres! Also Jurors must learn to understand different genres and not to kill entries which are different from avarage dated ballads, pop and schlagers in English composed in Sweden!

            • Which event are you talking about? Since the jury’s return ESC has like 10% ethnic/folk and 80% Anglo-American inspired entries or classical ballads in an average year. And before that it was certainly not on the verge of becoming a folk festival either. LOL.
              Moreover folk music is not one genre but includes any kinds of music with traditional roots. Needless to say, it differs from region to region and often even within one. Therefore a pan-European folk festival, which I am not asking for, would NOT necessarily contradict diversity, unlike e.g. a pure disney ballad or jazz (yeah, I’m aware of the subgenres) festival.
              However, it is actually the first time Greece sends Rebetiko or Ska. The latter even being something non-Greek.
              And by the way, as much as I like Montenegro’s effort the categories HIT and CURRENT have precious little to do with diversity. xD

            • Interestingly there was an ethno period in Eurovision before the introduction of televoting in the late 90’s. Between 1998 and 2002 there were only a few folk inspired songs, and they didn’t do well.

            • Indeed. I guess the language rule as well as the lack of most Eastern and Western Asian countries in the early noughties had an effetc here.

            • On the other hand the most succesful “ethnic” entries (i.e. songs inspired by different traditional music styles) in 2003 came from Turkey and Belgium who came 1st and 2nd. And that was before the arrival of Western Asian countries.

            • True, it was their outstanding quality/appeal which put them on top. But anyway I did not mean the possibilty to receive votes rather than the fact that most Western broadcasters would feel extremely uncomfortable to send something genuine/local. They think it is courteous to go the ‘universal’ way, at least in an international arena.

            • *Eastern European

            • The main difference probably being that the ethno songs in the 90’s sounded less commercial than those from 2003 and onwards.

            • True for many indeed, and more balladesque.

            • *less balladesque ofc (the ones from 2003 onwards)

            • I wouldn’t say that Zeljko Joksimovic’s songs or other traditional inspired entries from the Balkans weren’t balladesque.

              By the way, one of them, “Nije ljubav stvar” came 2nd by the juries in 2012. For instance I think it did better by the jury than by the televoters in Denmark.

              I don’t think the juries can be blamed for a decrease in ethnic songs in recent years.

            • Sure there were and are still ballads in ths field, but e.g. the cross between modern uptempo and traditional rhythms type of entry is something we haven’t witnessed before the televoting era. Same goes for experimental efforts, such as Greece 2011, and generally those which one would also stumble across outside the ESC context.
              On the other hand, the majority of the nineties ethnic entries were actually conventional festival ballads with added folklore touches.
              It’s sadly a matter of fact that the ‘jury’ votes about nine of ten ethnic songs down (in comparison to the public’s score) so I guess it is a bit dishonest to pretend the sudden massive decline of ethnic songs would not be related to the simultaneously introduced grandma vote. But to each their own!

          • I have to agree here Avat about Greece. It is a quite wise choice in terms of televoting support, it’s a perfect esc recipe to receive that kind of support. “Angel” would be a daring and edgy choice, definately not safe imo (and as I said previously – nothing wrong with being safe meaning to go for what’s popular. What’s popular is for popular for a reason).

            • Greece is a love or hate entry so it’s not safe.

            • Quite the opposite..It is easy on the ear and the eye. It’s instant and with a catchy chorus line. It’s in the same wave of thinking as Moldova 11 imo (or Montenegro 13). I would say it would not be safe if “Angel” was chosen. It has also a mixture of musical elements that is more difficult to follow. It does not have a line to get you hooked, it has a complicated structure. Honestly I believe that “Angel” and “Alcohol is free” would get about the same result in esc..The first would do quite good with juries and not so good with televoting and the 2nd the exact opposite.

              (And just to clear this out..I do NOT attack the greek entry, nothing wrong with being catchy and instant.Better be safe than sorry with some entries around here..)

            • I don’t have a problem with you attacking the greek entry etc.I just think we have different definitions of what is safe.Safe for me is a middle of the road entry(Like Russia 13 f.e)that you may listen to but doesn’t stir the water.It sounds anonymous.You define a song as safe based on whether it can do(hypothetically)well with the televoting.

            • Probably..But we even disagree on what consists a middle of the road entry. I could understand your view on the issue more if you did not use Russia 13 as an example which might be safe but it is far from the middle of the road. Middle of the road would imply it does everything in a mediocre way. Russia 13 is far from mediocrity from every aspect though in my opinion.

            • It’s not a love or hate entry for me – more a pros and cons entry.

              It’s nice to hear something different from Greece for once, and I understand that the lyrics are quite serious. That itself should be praised; we need songs actually meaning something. On the other hand I think that most of the audience won’t realise that, focusing only on the “alcohol is free”-phrase (as the rest of the words are in Greek) and then label it as just a party song.

              As for the music itself it’s hard for me to judge. It’s not a kind of music I really can relate to.

            • Fair enough.I understand it’s not a song everyone in Europe can relate to and most people will think it’s just a party song.But in a way,it is a party song.We are partying our troubles.The main point in my comment was my objection to it being a safe song.There are many safe songs this year but AIF is not one of them.

            • I actually like the duality between seriousness and fun. Songs with more layers are always welcome.

              I think it will do better than “Aphrodisiac”, as it clearly stands out from all other songs this year.

            • I agree with you here, guitar

  6. Its not my my cup of tea and have no idea what it will look like live but have to admit that it is welldone and IMO it has one of the best music videos this year! Goodluck!

  7. Nina Zizic’s vocal performance sounds promising!I do hope Montenegro will qualify this year!Good luck!

  8. Dedduh and Noyz … sounds like two frolic and colourful cartoon figures. :)

    I really like the song but do not like the video clip at all. Let’s wait for the live performance …

    Good luck!

    • To be honest, i don’t mind Nina’s part of the song but other than that, it’s not my cup of tea and, i couldn’t agree with you more togravus about the video!! At last i’ve found someone who doesn’t like it! :D I’m curious however to see how Europe take it…what do you think, honestly? Would Europe really vote for this over Russia’s same old, same old, ballad and Georgia’s annoying re-make of Ell and Nikki?

      • I have no idea. A lot will depend on whether they manage to perform the song in a dynamic and powerful way, which is very difficult with dubstep numbers, in particular if we talk vocals. Unfortunately, most of them come across as simply lame when performed live … :( If they are good live, they will have a chance to sneak into the final imo, but only just. After all, televoting in the West is still dominated by older people and traditional ESC fans preferring ballads and europop. And how will the juries react? Depends on the people that are part of the juries imo.

        • Ye i suppose…i think also the fact that Russia and even Georgia seem to have pre-made ‘mates’ that will guaranteed vote for them and i think for countries like Montenegro, the UK, Switzerland etc., they just don’t have the back up amount of countries that are guaranteed to vote for them. Ok, Montenegro have Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia and possibly Slovenia…but that’s nothing compared to Russia’s gigantic team: Belarus, Ukraine, Poland (who aren’t participating this year), Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, FInland, Armenia, Israel, Romania (sometimes), etc. That’s why it is almost impossible for some countries to succeed…:(

          • “That’s why it is almost impossible for some countries to succeed…”

            And that is the reason too why Andorra, Monaco and Slovakia have left Eurovision. Andorra should have qualified on 4 occasions imo (2005, 2006, 2007 and 2009), Monaco once (2005) and Slovakia once too (2009). San Marino will probably leave too if they fail this year. I hope that the EBU will soon realise that the biased voting does structural damage to the contest.

            Btw, the most ridiculous instant in televoting occured in the 2007 semi-final imo, when Moldova qualified in 10th position with 91 points whereas Portugal didn’t with 88 points in 11th place. The reason for this was that Portugal itself had given 12 points to Moldova because of the big Moldovan/Romanian community living in Portugal. Of course, Moldova had given no points to Portugal because there were only very little points left once all the friends and neighbours had got their share … And don’t get me wrong, I personally prefer Moldova 2007 to Portugal 2007 but this is not about personal taste.

            • Uhuh, totally agree. And that is why i hope San Marino qualify as i fear that eventually, small countries will just disappear from the contest – making way to a ESC where it’s the Balkan block against the Eastern block against the Scandinavian block…very sad thought :(

            • Well, I still think that every country (except the microstates perhaps) has a chance to win but a country like Portugal f. e. would have to throw its musical traditions overboard and sing in English too to do so. :(

            • What a (enjoyable!) but depressing conversation… :( – θα μας χασει ο Θεος! as we Greeks would say! Never mind, you never know what may happen this year. :D Positive thoughts… ;)

            • What does θα μας χασει ο Θεος! mean? I don’t understand Greek … except for ESC lyrics of course. :)

            • Literally: God will lose us! Which basically means that God will abandon us all. Another one of those cheerful Greek sayings. ;)

            • Might be a good thing though. Lokking back in history, God hasn’t done much good imo … he doesn’t seem to be good at his job. :( I will say it with Prior Walter’s words from ‘Angels in America’: “Sack the guy!” (Please, no offence to those who are believers …)

            • Where are you from btw togravus? :) My guess…judging totally by the name…Austrian? Or maybe English i’m not sure.

            • I am a senator from ancient Rome of course. ;) No, I am German with a bit of French and Polish heritage … but all in all I am a terrible mess because I have lived in Turkey, Italy, the UK, Malta and the USA too. Well, I am a Swabian first and foremost I guess, because I love Maultaschen, Trollinger and Kässpätzle. Yummy! :)

            • I got a thumb down … Someone obviously doesn’t like Maultaschen, Trollinger and Kässpätzle. :( Perhaps he or she went to the wrong restaurant … ;)

            • What exactly is Maultaschen, Trollinger and Kässpätzle? :)

            • Haha – wow! You’ve been busy travelling. How come – do you like travelling or is it your job or has it not been your choice?

            • @ dimitri:

              Kässpätzle = Swabian pasta with onions and cheese
              Trollinger = our local red wine (the Trollinger from Mundelsheim is the best … :) …)
              Maultaschen = sort of Swabian ravioli. Pasta filled with minced meet, herbs and spinach. They are also called Herrgottsbscheißerle (don’t try to pronounce it … you might seriously damage your tongue). Herrgottsbscheißerle means ‘Little things cheating God’ because it is a traditional dish on Good Friday. People believe that God cannot see that they eat meat because the meat is covered by pasta …

              @ gio:

              I was teaching at university for many years and thus went to to the USA and Malta. I studied in London for two years and in France and Italy too. When I was a small boy, I lived in Istanbul because my mother was teaching at the German school in Galata and my father (who is an architect) built hotels in Saudi-Arabia …

            • Wow you have a pretty exciting life! Nah, my life is pretty simple. Typical Cypriot background – parents/grandparents moved to England during Turkish invasion in 1974 so i live in the fabulously dull UK as the rain pours even when it is supposed to be summer. :) I do miss Cyprus though and thoroughly look forward to my regular visits there in the summer. :D

            • I already was in Cyprus for a week this year. :) Where in the UK do you live? I lived in Ilford, Essex when I studied at Goldsmiths’ College, New Cross, London. Those were fantastic two years btw. :)

            • They sound delicious.I love pasta and red wine anyway. :) Here,on Good Friday we usually follow a rather strict diet.We eat boiled potatos,olives,a bean salad(it should be oil-free)fresh onions etc.

            • @ dimitri:

              So on Good Friday for once the Germans (or at least those levantine-style Germans living in the South-West) are laxer with rules and restrictions than the original Levantines. Good news indeed. ;) :)

            • Were dp you live?We don’t use that saying here. :)

            • Enlighten me dimitriesc…what is the correct term you would use, here, at EurovisionTimes? ;)

            • By here,i mean we don’t use that saying in Northern Greece where i live and it’s the first time i hear that expression.

            • *Where,

            • Right i see. So you from Northern Greece huh? Whereabouts?

            • Kavala.

            • Interesting – I’m from (but don’t live) in Larnaca, Cyprus. I live in the sunny UK :)

            • I see!Maybe,that’s an expression you use in Cyprus then! :)

            • Haha, i guess so. :D

            • Cool! Nowhere exciting i’m afraid – Nottingham. A small-ish city in the East Midlands. :))

            • Cool! Nowhere exciting i’m afraid – Nottingham. A small-ish city in the East Midlands. :)

            • I think a big problem is that every “epoch” of Eurovision has been suffering from some sort of bias. In the 60’s, the entries in French were always in the top. Later on, it would be the English entries in the top (we could see it most clearly in 1992) and nowadays we have these huge diaspora / block voting which ruins the excitement and sense of fair play of the voting imo. But maybe that’s the price you have to pay when you deal with a contest of culture, in this case music. :(

            • But even with block voting there will always be some voting that transcends the blocks. For instance runaway winners often get 10 or 12 points from all over Europe. And who could predict Hungary’s 12 points to Iceland in 2011?

              Even in the Nordic countries we don’t always vote for each other (which I see as a positive thing, because the bigger the honor of actually recieving some points).

        • “After all, televoting in the West is still dominated by older people and traditional ESC fans preferring ballads and europop”

          This must be why ballads and europop entries usually do so well in Western European televotings, especially outside the Nordics. LOL:

  9. Off Topic:
    Two of the most different artists this year in ESC have performed together…take a look and see what you think: :D

  10. I already knew Nina can sing good live – with ballads. It seems she can also pull off up-tempo songs live. I do think without the voice effects and/or backing singers that it will sound less “powerful”, but it sounds promising based on this video. The sound is usually bad on live videos so it will sound even better than this. :)

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