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Editorial: The Language Issue


Editorial – After the usual „this is the worst ESC year ever“ cries on certain platforms, we now realize that 2011 is not that bad at all. There is a development tough that is deplorable: Of the 43 entries this year only 8 (Spain, France, Bulgaria, Poland, Macedonia, Serbia, Cyprus and Portugal) will perform their entry entirely in a language other than English.  France’s decision to perform its operatic song in Corsican means that this year will not have a single entry in French (except one sentence in Lithuania’s chorus). After the contest was dominated by French in its earlier years and French was at least the second most important language over the decades this year marks a new down point.

Even countries which usually would be expected to perform in their own language like Slovakia, San Marino and Slovenia (allegedly) have sprung on the English bandwagon, but who can blame them?

Last year out of the 14 non-qualifiers, 9 had performed in their national language and only 4 songs performed in a language other than English qualified (Serbia, Greece, Portugal, Israel). In the final the first 7 places were reserved for songs in English, only Greece could make it into the Top 10 with their song “Opa”. The other non-English entries were France (12.), Serbia (13.), Israel (14.), Spain (15.) Portugal (18.). All this shows, that a song performed in it’s national language has it harder to get a good result. Since 1995 only one song has won the contest in a language other than English (Serbia 2007)

The problem I see with this is that the contest loses a lot of it’s intentional appeal and its goal, to show different European cultures. The Dutch representatives, the 3JS, have never sung in English in their career, but they seem to think that they need to perform in English to get a good result and the biggest problem is that they are right. It is also the televoter’s and juries fault for favouring songs in English.

In the future, there are countries which are more likely to sing in English (Germany, Scandinavia) and others that will probably send entries in their national language in the coming years. The protest in Poland against Magdalena Tul’s intention of performing in English is a cause of hope as it shows, that the fans can actually influence these decisions. Let’s hope this “anglophonization” does not progress as it has or in 2020 we will only hear songs in English.

66 comments on “Editorial: The Language Issue

  1. :/ Only 7

    I won’t hate a song just for being in English, but c’mon only 1/6 of the competition has no English…ufff I hope this will be the lowest ever and next year and the year after we’ll see more national language entries.

    • what bothers me is bad english instead of national language. I don’t need to listen to the lyrics all the time (sometimes they are pretty vapid anyways) and some songs are just meant to be in certain language.

      • Yes, bad English :p I’d rather hear songs I don’t understand than songs I should be able to understand, but can’t haha

        • hehe exactly. but I found that a year in Bulgaria helps you understand even these Eastern accents of English^^

          • I’m surrounded by accents. My parents have an accent; my dad only speaks English when he has to and my mom only knows a bit because most people here are bilingual. I can understand most Eurovision entries, but then there are Belarus 2006 that really test my listening skills. :p

  2. yes this is a crime towards the French language not having a whole song this year. I am ok with Corsican language from France though, but not from Belgium :(
    not having all wishes fullfilled I still like this year,doesnt mean that it will the worst ESC ever. … And there are good options for my winners :)

  3. Now that we know all the songs and their final versions i think this year is not that bad as it seemed to be at first, although last year was better. It’s a decent year imo.

    As for the language issue, i also think that there are too many songs in english. Imo the songs that sounded better in their national language are Netherlands, Hungary and Italy and i’m surprised that San Marino decided to sing in english as their previous entry was in italian.

    P.S. : Serbia also sings in their national language, so there are 8 countries with non english lyrics.

  4. The rush to sing in English is the worst feature of our favourite show nowadays. I have always regarded ESC as a show that allows us to hear songs in different languages mirroring the diversity that exists in Eurovision. Alas this is a contest and whoever wants to win, has to make this choice. Personally, I am so very glad that my country and a few others have almost always remained faithful to the language(s) spoken there. I believe it’s time for the EBU to bring back the language rule and to explain to the juries what the show is about. This may sound conservative, but I do not like to listen to a bunch of songs written in nonsensical English, sung with weird accents.

    • I dpn’t mind having a part of the song in English if it’s not convey the meaning (like Karolina did in Mojot Svet… though I was disappointed she left out the “balkan soul from the English verse, because I loved that line in the Macedonian text… it seemed she was fishing for votes outside of the bloc).
      But if it’s an ethnic entry with quickly stiched English lyrics sung in bad accent… it just does not work (I love entries with feel of ethnic… but these should be kept in national language… not because I am being conservative, but because English has different rythm and it just does not fit).

      • Yeah, sometimes it doesn’t fit. By the way will your country ever come back? I don’t want you to be a permanent hole on the map. :p

        • Not sure. The Czech TV is now in serious saving/hybernation mode… and they never cared for the contest in the first place (or are simply unable to promote and make people interested in). They even refuse to broadcast it, eventhough many people would be interested since Slovakia is in it. Commercial TVs are not part of EBU.

          There is group demanding that we return, but not sure how strong it is… nothing is happening so far.

      • I am not a fan of bilingual songs either in general. The English versions should be used as way of promotion, but every country should perform its song in a language spoken in its territory during the show. There are countless tv and radio shows showcasing songs performed in English. ESC should try to go down a different road. However, money speaks louder than everything else.

  5. I would like to congratulate ET for having taking the trouble to write this editorial. :)

    Go, big 8!

  6. “Since 1995 only one song has won the contest in a language other than English (Serbia 2007)”

    Dana International sang in Hebrew in 1998. But yes, apart from Molitva, it’s been a bit of an English-wash in recent years. Shame, really.

  7. On the quality of songs this year: There are as many songs I love or like very much as in most other years but what I miss is the midfield of ok songs which normally makes up 50 % of the songs. This year, it is more or less straight into the abyss of cr*ps as soon as I go one step below the lowest ranked song I like. :(

    On the language issue: I think that it very sad that songs in other languages than English have next to no chance to be successful in ESC these days. Generally, I do not care that much whether a song is being performed in the national language or in English … as long as the English version is gramatically correct and makes sense … and the singer knows how to properly pronounce English. What makes me really sad though is that most compositions for ESC do not have a regional flavour anymore these days. 90 % sound like US-American or Swedish productions (and many of them are too ..). If I want to listen to music like that, I can switch on the radio every day. ESC once was (among other things) about celebrating Europe’s diversity but these days it seems to be primarily about presenting some sort of 2nd rate globalised music scene and everyone’s idea of being international, cool and (postpost)modern, which equals random in most cases. However, considering the results in ESC we cannot blame broadcasters or artists if they decide to go for an English language song. Few countries are proud enough to do a Portugal for more than 40 years, I guess. On the other hand, the “anglophonization” of ESC is not a phenomenon related to televoting or the abolition of the language rule. With the exception of Marija’s victory in 2007 (which was exceptional on so many different ways), the last winning song performed in a language other than English was Sweden 1991 imo because ‘Nocturne’ is more or less and instrumental piece and the refrain of ‘Diva’ was almost totally “internationalized”:

    ‘Viva nari’a, viva Viktoria, Afrodita
    Viva laDiva, viva Viktoria, Kleopatra’ … hardly qualifies as Hebrew imo.

    Last winning song in Swedish: 1991
    Last winning song in Italian: 1990
    Last winning song in French: 1988
    Last winning song in Norwegian: 1985 (not considering ‘Nocturne’)
    Last winning song in German: 1982
    Last winning song in Hebrew: 1979
    Last winning song in Dutch: 1969
    Last winning song in Spanish: 1969
    Last winning song in Danish: 1963

    I am afraid that everyone supporting the cause of national languages in ESC is fighting a lost cause. The “anglophonization” has gone on for far too long to change direction now imo. Just check the results in the 90s, when Ireland, the UK and Malta were the only countries allowed to sing in English and came top 10 almost every year.
    Anyway, whether we like it or not we will have to come to terms with a world in which we find the same shops in highstreets all over the world, in which a huge segment of the population prefers fast food USA style to the regional cuisine, and in which all ESC entries more or less sound the same (by that I mean that you cannot tell anymore which country they represent by listening to the song). After all, almost all movie blockbusters are US-American productions too. Perhaps there will be a backlash against the levelling and standardization (= increasing uniformity) of cultures around the world, but I do not see it happening soon.

    Long comment week, it seems …

    • The future is not too bright. I love “regional cuisine” and I’ll just have to go somewhere else in order to find it.

  8. We should re introdure the Language rule!! It’s a shame that so many countries are loosing their identity by singing in English!

  9. Countries converting to English for the finals is ok but some singers do not have a good command of the English language and this could make a good song become a poor song.
    I like different languages in this contest and everything in English makes it a little boring.

  10. what i notice is that no one points out that even if songs performed in english can be found on the top of the list, they also can be found on the bottom of the list

  11. i am against any language rule. we live in a continent with many peoples and languages, and everyone should have the right to speak and sing the way he/she wants.
    what i do miss are songs which contain a mix of languages, there have been very interesting combinations like bosnian/french, greek/italian, russian/ukrainian, english/hebrew etc., even artificial languages. for me the highlight were germany 99 with four languages and romania 07 with six languages.
    i love the diversity of talking, at the moment learning myself estonian, i just can citate thornton wilder (english poet): “who learns a foreign language, takes the hat off a foreign nation.”
    head aega!

    • I love diversity and that was one of the reasons that led me to ESC. Apparently, everybody wants to sing in English. They do celebrate the many ways to butcher a language though! :)

  12. When a country sends a song that basically comes from the tradition of anglo-saxon music (for example Poland and Hungary’s disco pop or Italy’s jazz number or Serbia’s 60s inspired tune) frankly I think it’s better they do it in english. To my mind the serbian, italian and hungarian song sound a lot better and more “genuine” in english than they do in serbian or italian or hungarian.

    On the other hand if this year’s greek song or Serbia’s 2007 winner were in english they would sound ridiculous. A song that comes from a country’s musical tradition (and I’m not talking about standard pop songs with some ethnic elements thrown in like Turkey 2003 or Greece 2005) simply can not be in english.

    So the question is not why do so many countries choose the english language. The question is why do they feel the need to choose the standard idiom of current anglo-saxon pop, rock, folk, indie or what have you instead of plumbing their own traditions and try to present them in a novel and musically inspiring way.

    There is only one country so far that has never presented a song outside their tradition: Portugal. However – and despite some very noble and deserving efforts like 2008- they have never quite managed to make it ‘sexy’ and exciting. They just go there every year, do their thing but they never seem interested in winning. And even though they’re honouring their musical tradition, in fact they’re letting it down for lack of effort.

    • * I wrote a song sung in “serbian.” I meant of course a song sung in serbo-croatian. My mistake.

      Just like a language spoken in the smaller part of the region of Macedonia (and even there not by everyone, since one out of three in that country speaks albanian) can not be called “macedonian”. Slavic Macedonian would be the correct term.

    • We did send songs outside our musical tradition, such as the 05 and 06 horror stories. As for the “sexy” and exciting remark, well it all depends on what one would call sexy and exciting, still Portugal has sent very good songs in 71, 84, 96, 03 and 08 that were ignored by the jurors and televoters. Had these songs been sent by another country (one of those that are always in the final regardless of the song they send), they would have probably fared much better.

      “And even though they’re honouring their musical tradition, in fact they’re letting it down for lack of effort.” I disagree. ESC has let us and itself down by ignoring songs like ‘Silêncio e tanta gente’. Where are you from?

  13. i honnestly think Lordi, Alexander and Lena would have won in Finnish, Norwegians and German… however, the less national language songs, the more chances for one to shine and differ itself from other more generic songs with a more generic language too… Corsican language has never been more popular than this year really

    • Disagree. Lena would never have won in German imo. But of course it is all speculation and neither you nor I can prove our gut feelings …

      • i hesitated putting that one, coz “Satellite” works on Lena’s quirkiness, a lot of it is recognition of the british pop, so indeed english fit the song very well… tough one, but Sertab, Ruslana, Helena, Lordi and Alexander would have won in their original languages for sure

        • Interesting how you shift your opinion…

          Sertab won just points ahead so I think that might’ve sunk her, Helena might’ve worked, Lordi could’ve sung anything and would’ve won ^^ and you might be right about Alexander!

          • me? how did i shift my opinion? i always think that a song should be performed in its original form, and NOT be changed JUST to fit eurovision… I still have “Siren” winner of 2010 above Turkey, both being sung in English!

            how is that a shift? gosh now even manuel comes against me, how is that a shit seriously?

            i just said that i THINK but we will NEVER know that these would hve won no matter what language… i dfo think Lena would have won in German but I think the English fits the song, and as I said, i am for the original language and “Satellite” was originally in English… this is about prediction on what MIGHT have happened, not shifting MY position or OPINION gosh,spelling it out to people, so esctodayish

            you thinkl im right about Lordi and Alexander, and you say you think it might have worked with Helena, so the ONLY one you dont agree with is Sertab, and funny, if she didnt win in Turkish, then “Sanomi” NOT in english and in IMAGINARY language would have won, so we’re down to the same scenario…

            • You didn’t get what I meant! You say somethign, togravus disagrees and you shift your opinion… that’s all

            • And just one thing: I will be with you when I agree and you are reasonable in my opinion and I will be “against” you when I do not agree. You should learn to see the difference between disagreeing with your opinion and being “against” you…

            • i did NOT like that sentence, on “shift” i was accused of this WAY too much on esctoday to accept to hear that i am a no one who shifts opinion that easily! im sorry but that really put me off so sorry if i was strong but i completely sign every thing i say an strongly believe in.

              Plus you agreed with me on Helena, Lordi, Alexander… Lena i already talked about, so what, Ruslana who already had Ukrainian in her song, and Sertab who if she had sung in Turkish would either have won or let “Sanomi” win (coz Ireland and Uk voted with juries, both having given 0 to Tatu killing them entirely)… technically, we could have had NOT english winners all these times, but the songs were written as such, so be it, i do think the SONGS won, not their language, just that people write more often songs in english than in original

              when you look at it, of all songs written IN national language and THEN shifted, how many did indeed do top 10? the songs in the top 10 performed in english were most of the times written as such, just as “Randajad”, “Et s’il fallait le faire” and “Bistra voda” were performed in their original languages and reached top 10!

            • i didnt shift, i still think Lena would have won in German and he disagrees, but it IS the one im LESS sure about, i said it, it’s tough, coz english works so well in THIS song that maybe German would have not given the same impression of british pop quirkiness… but still, i say lena would have won.

            • German would have given it a completely different sound/tone (Hello, it’s E. A. Poe calling from the grave again …) imo.

              “Liebe, oh Liebe, ich muss Dir sagen, was ich für Dich fühle … etc”

              Few televoters would have found that equally charming, I am afraid …

            • i know and understand what you mean ; well we’ll never know which one of us is right! do you agree on the other ones i quoted? sertab, ruslana, helena, lordi and alexander?

            • I am not sure about Sertab and Helena and would not gamble my life on Ruslana or Alexander … but Lordi, yes!

            • ruslana no one could understand her in English! no one absolutely, they voted for its dynamism, it’s caveman power live, it’s dinai nai nai, and that’s it, ukrainian, english…

              Alexander apart from “fairytaaaaaaaale” which might not do the same in norwegian, won because of its modern folklore and everyone just EVERYONE wants to get in Rybak’s pants, im pretty sure he’d have won maybe by a less huge margin…

              Lordi we all agree lol i think the very kitsh finnish flag hat was that extra bit that just made everyone understand the humour of it

              Sertab it’s open to debate, but she wasn’t that good in English pronounciation either, and won for the belly dancing, the modern rnb mix to the more traditional sound and the good vocals… but true, it was so close, that if she didnt win, “Sanomi” would have, and then that’s still not English

              Helena im not sure but 2005 votes were all over the place, she was the “consensual” winner, and i think it would have been too in Greek…

            • Roselil

              Yes, but Hitler made his political carreer in Germany. :( And the really terrible thing is that he was voted into power by democratic precedure … Gosh, one of my grannies voted for him while my other granny was in the resistance and had to go into hiding in 1940 … Can you imagine? … my father was born in a cellar in which my granny hid (while my granddad, who was a socialist lawyer, was in a nazi prison where he ‘died’ that same yaer …) and went out for the first time when he was 4 years old, and then it was in order to flee from Stettin …
              Sad stories … I could go on but I won’t … This is about ESC after all. GO, Greece!

              Btw, I am very happy that we had Napoleon because he brought civil rights and liberties to parts of Europe that had never heard of such a thing before!

              Well, good night everyone!

            • Toggie, now I see where your socialistism comes from. It was a strong story..hhuuhh.. need a breath! Yes we must stick to the topic.. Good nite, see you next week :)

            • For some reason I don’t really like the German language. Maybe it’s because there aren’t too many good German artists (though I love love love Nena and i don’t mind German on her song… that is not to say that I would love her less if she sung in English).

              It’s just… not a pretty language… Maybe we would look at it differently if Nazis had not give it such a bad image… or maybe it would still be not a good sounding language.

            • I agree that German isn’t very beautiful phonetically. It tends to sound a bit hard and rough to foreign ears. An Italian friend of mine once said that it sounded like a train passing by (not the modern ones but those they had in Italy in the 80s … :) …). On the other hand, German has the most beautiful grammar of all living languages I know (nothing beats Latin!). It is very flexible and thus there are almost innumerable possibilities to lend a certain ‘tone’ to what you are saying.
              When I was younger, I had languages I liked and those I didn’t like too but nowadays I love them all. However, my absolute favourites are still Polish, Portuguese, Icelandic, Spanish, Greek and Hebrew. Lithuanian, Finnish, Estonian and Basque are very nice too. Well, I give up … Love them all!

            • German grammar is very difficult one..der die das!! aus bei mit nach seit von zu durch für gegen ohne um, kannst du die akkusativen nicht, dann bist du wirklich dumm.. ohh my German teacher.. all these are still in my head but still I cant speak it properly :)

              All time language that sounds very nice to my ears are French and Persian..
              Toggie how many languages do you speak fluently??

            • Fluently only German and English … and to a lesser extent French. Written Spanish is fine but I have never had enough experience to be fluent in conversation (never lived in Spain … :( …) although I understand 90 % of what is said in Spanish. I can speak a bit and understand Portuguese, Italian and Maltese too. Still trying to improve all those although Maltese seems to be a hopeless case. That’s soooo difficult, and even when I lived there, I was never really forced to speak the language because everyone is fluent in English too …

            • I can only speak 2 languages fluently too.. almost like you:)

            • When you consider that a baby born on the day Hitler died would be 66 this year, it seems pretty sad that anyone would still have an issue with the German language because of the historic events of National Socialism. Maybe we should all hate the French language because of Napoleon?

            • well Napoleon was from Corsica, ironically, this year would be perfect for hating France for that! ahah!

            • well, bunny here in czechlands we love to hate germans and russians. It’s our favorite pasttime:D

              i used to be able speak german… no more. Now it’s just English and Czech. And trying to master Russian.

            • Morgan and Hitler was Braunau/Austria..

  14. One thing we all know is that English is definitely the most successful language when it comes to Eurovision.

    If countries were still sing in their native language, we’ll end up with years and years of countries bashing each other over which language is the best overall.

  15. Everyone should have a right to perform in a language they want, so I don’t support any language restrictions.
    I, personally, don’t mind at all if a singer sings in a language I don’t understand, and I think most people don’t mind either. Many Eurovision viewers don’t speak English, but they can still enjoy the music, it’s just that certain phrases and easier to sing in English, like “Come on, everybody!”, or “I want you, baby”.
    The musical “We will rock you” was staged in Russia, and most songs were translated, but some songs, like “We will rock you”, “We are the champions” and “Bohemian rhapsody” were kept in English. I can’t imagine any of these songs in Russian, they would just be wrong.

  16. It’s nice to see so many people open to music in other languages!
    Everyone should have a right to sing in the language of their choice and not be limited to any one language. The competition will guide people to make the right decision.
    I liked the idea of the dual-lanugage songs. Introduce people to something new.
    AZ

  17. I think some countries like Portugal and Israel deserve some credit for always picking Portuguese and Hebrew, respectively, despite their potential chances.

    Since Malta re-joined ESC in 1991, there was only one English language entry that didn’t make Top 10 under language restrictions: 1995 host entry from Ireland, “Dreamin'” by Eddie Friel (frankly one of better English language songs of the decade). And look that in 1999 when language restrictions are gone – neither Malta, UK or Ireland enters Top 10. I would be all for signing in national languages if it wouldn’t be huge advantage for those three countries yet again.

    I’m from Poland and I like the fact that Magdalena Tul will sing in Polish. English version isn’t as good although the chorus is slightly different and more catchy.

    Very true words about ESC losing a touch of diversity among participating countries. That was so great about old times.

    You (almost) all keep forgetting that “Diva” in 1998 was in Hebrew.

    And I believe that Portugal should have won in 1984, certainly over Sweden and what… Maria Guinot lower than off-key Sophie Carle from Luxembourg?

    I thought about French in ESC too. The last time France was in Top 3 was in 1991 which is a shame. The funny thing is that the last time French language entry was a winner, that was for Switzerland, not France. The same for Top 3 with Switzerland in 1993.

  18. The EBU should enforce a rule stating that the songs in competition must be sung in a language of the country it represents. Language is undoubtedly very important. Artists are free to record an English version of their songs which they can promote via the internet quite easily, still they should perform in the language of the country they represent during the three minutes during which they are in competition. And for the argument that televoters don’t understand lyrics in other languages than English, there is still the possibility to add subtitles (as it is done sometimes).

    • Whatever way it is done, at the very least the UK will be given an advantage by being allowed to sing in English be default (unless they were made to sing in Welsh, Scottish or another of the less common dialects to level the playing field a bit more). I do like the idea of adding subtitles however, as it could easily be done in whatever regional language the contest is broadcast in.

      A great song does not need to have lyrics in our own language:
      “Music is a world within itself, with a language we all understand” – Stevie Wonder (from ‘Sir Duke’)

      • Yes, bring the language rule back and force the UK to sing in Welsh, Scottish, whatever, Ireland in Gaelic and Malta in Maltese … LOL
        Honestly, as much as I love songs to be performed in national languages in order to be able to ‘taste’ the songs, I think that the language rule would be the death blow for ESC. :(

        • What’s wrong with songs in Welsh, Gaelic and Maltese? Are you implying that these languages are minor or inferior in comparison with English? English just happens to be the national language of the UK, Ireland and Malta, not other countries – facts are facts. And I don’t get your point about regional languages, since nobody forced France to sing in Corsican this year.

  19. It’s a real problem. Some entries sound better in english, although when national language sounds good they should leave it. We need more identity! Some countries like Albania have in the past ruined entries in translation whilst others have improved. It depends on the individual song.

    But votability is an important factor too!

  20. when we listen to an english entry like magdalena’s jestem deathknell, it really does stir emotions and opinions.

    I am not in Europe, therefore i am not politically motivated to care who wins. I am motivated to enjoy the competition and to judge the songs on their merits.

    I don’t overly care for FYROM or Belarussian entries, in general. This is not a language point, Belarus sings in English most of the time. Just not well.
    I do feel that the artists, especially in a national final situation, should be sticking to the language with which they won! For instance this year: Poland and Netherlands. Hungary should have stuck to it too. Have not yet heard Iceland’s new lyrics but I think it takes away from the message they were giving in the first place.

    There is NO right answer.
    PS I didn’t understand a word of Ruslana’s “english” either.

    • Poland is singing in Polish, Magdalena made it clear on her website that she will respect the wishes of the Polish people and sing po Polsku. :)

      Iceland’s song was originally in English and re-written in Icelandic (because of RUV’s language rule in the national final) just a little while before submissions closed is what Sigurjon’s widow explained. It was always going to be in English.

    • Well, Diki Tancy/Wild Dances did not have much lyrics to begin with… it was mostly spirit of Carpathia… with bunch of hey-hey-heys… she can sing English quite well if she wants to. It’s interesting that she made two version of her last two albums – Ukrainian and English.

  21. How can you say that since 1995 only one song has won that isn’t in english which is Serbia 2007 – what about Israel 1998 ???

    let’s be more accurate.

  22. Is it a coincidence that there’s a record of English songs and non-ethnic songs in Eurovision now when the juries were brought back? I think not! This is part of their agenda.

    The only thing we as fans can do is lobbying for the language issue (as it apparently worked in the case of Poland this year) and to vote for entries in native language this year.

    I’d say vote for your favorite entry in native language in May, even if you have another overall favorite in English. I think this is the only way we can start a new trend and everyone knows that Eurovision the next year follow the trend of the previous, which means that if non-English non-ethnic entries are not successful, the coming year there will be even less of these type of entries.

  23. One more thing, if the juries were actually professionals they would encourage use of native languages, instead we saw them dissing both France next year (a song that could be a potential summer-hit) and Slovakia and Finland (two of the most genuine entries last year and Finland that probably never send a song that ethnic ever). Note that both these songs would fair much better if it were just up to the televotes.

    The juries wants to delete any national identity and make it a bland contest for English and Anglophone-culture. The Eurovision as we got to know it died with the return of juries.

    Don’t believe me? Look back at the years when only juries decided and the UK/Ireland dominated the contest no matter what they send really. Those years can’t be blamed on televoters since it was all in the hand of juries. I’d say televoters are much more open to the European diversity. Either they are more willing to support songs in native language or atleast songs with ethnic/local elements. The juries seems to be very anti especially against the latter.

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