Editorial – Before the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 had even come to an end, the German press already speculated about the German selection for the next edition in 2013. Since 2010, the public broadcaster ARD and the private network ProSieben had collaborated in choosing the German entrant through a casting show. This year the ratings were disastrous,though. How should Germany select its Eurovision entry for Sweden?
Proposition 1: Keep the “Unser Star für…” series
The German results at Eurovision since the new casting format has been introduced have been very good. A win in 2010, tenth place in 2011 and 8th place in 2012. Apart from Azerbaijan, Germany now has the longest current run in the Top 10. The thing that works so well is the seperate selection of singer and song. First the audience can select a singer (Lena, Roman Lob) that has the biggest mass appeal and then they present several songs written by an international pool of songwriters. The problem of the format: It’s incredibly boring. This year it became clear that most viewers obviously followed the last two years because of Lena. Roman and his fellow competitors could not do the same. The ratings were close to abmysal at times and for private channel ProSieben that is probably not enough, especially as they do not really profit from the Eurovision broadcast later on.So all in all, and according to press reports, a continuation of the series seems very unlikely.
Proposition 2: The “old-fashioned” way
In the years before Raab, the ARD held a “traditional” national final with three or more songs competing for the right to represent Germany. At times they managed to convince quite popular singers such as Monrose or even Eurovision legends like Vicky Leandros to compete. The concept even produced one of the biggest Eurovision hits in Germany: “No, no never” by Texas Lightning. However, the way the national final was held with lots of Eurovision nostalgia and in a small theatre is no longer in keeping with what the ARD wants the contest to be perceived like.So what to do?
Proposition 3: The “Bundesvision Song Contest”
Stefan Raab created the Bundesvision Song Contest, a Eurovision-like competition between the 16 German regions, after the disappointing 8th place of his song “Can’t Wait Until Tonight” by Max Mutzke. Every year since then the contest has attracted some of the biggest name in the German music business such as Clueso, Seed, Peter Fox and Tim Bendzko. Most musicians do not see the competition as a risk to humiliate themselves but rather as a possibility to promote a new single. In most cases that works out quite well. Most winning songs have become hits in Germany. So why not choose the German hopeful for Eurovision this way? One problem may be that the known artists I just mentioned may not be willing to compete anymore if, in case of a win, they had to go to Eurovision, which is still perceived as a bigger risk than possibility for established acts. Also the voting system (just like in Eurovision) is not representative. Small regions like Berlin award as many points as big regions like Bavaria and the result is thus not representative.
Proposition 4: A German Melodifestivalen
Years ago there were reports that the ARD had bought the rights of “Melodifestivalen” from Swedish national broadcaster SVT. The Swedish national selection is the most popular and most watched show on Swedish television every year and attracts some of the country’s biggest stars of all musical genres. Right now, the ARD is in a position where such a project could also work in Germany. Lena’s win and consistently good results for Germany in the last three years have raised the image of the contest and the media attention has increased dramatically. Many popular artists such as Tim Bendzko, MIA, Oceana and Unheilig have claimed they may consider participating in Eurovision. With several semi-finals being held, ProSieben and ARD could continue their cooperation and if they do the promotion right and get the right acts to compete (preferably from all musical genres) the ratings may be very pleasing for both channels.
If I was the head of ARD (or the King of Germany, whichever you like better) I would try the fourth proposition. In my opinion it should have been tried after the Eurovision win when the chance of a success for such a format was even higher, but it’s not too late yet.
What do you think? How should Germany choose its entry next year?











Of course a German MF would have the biggest potential for the broadcasters but then it would hold the greatest risk of a total crash too, financial loss, damaged reputation and mockery of serious papers included … Naturally, most German fans would have their knickers in a twist if we got our own MF because that show comes pretty close to most hardcore fans’ idea of heaven and eternal bliss.
Personally, I would love ARD to drop the terribly boring idol format of USf… and see them stage a proper NF (perhaps even a German MF, but please with less gimmicks and more musical substance) or arrange with Pro7 to send the BSC winner to ESC. In fact, I do not really care about the format as long as we end up with a good song and do not gamble away the popularity ESC has gained since Lena showed up for USfO. The last thing I want is to be ashamed of the German entries again. We already had that almost every single year from 1985 to 2003. Gosh! that Lou woman f. e. … or Stone & Nadir … or Atlantis 2000 … Please never again!
Unser ster für Stockholm!
I am not German, but, as an ESC fan, I would rather see a song coming from Bundesvision representing Germany. At least, that show focus on German talent, if I understood things correctly. I do not follow fromats such as USF (booooring); MF is all about “Oh my God, he, she, they are so hot, the stage presentation is awesome, the prerecorded backing vocals are top notch!”; MF (Björkman, because he makes all the decisions) could not care less about the songs themselves and their proper live performance, stay away from it, Germany. Go your own way and try not to ignore stuff like ‘Hinterm Ozean’.
P.S.: Portugal vs Spain and Germany vs ? (I think Italy will beat England)
Italy! It would be awsome to have the 4 best teams in the semi-finals.
agreed, though Croatia should have been in group A or D and would have made it through
Yes, that is true. The way the groups were composed was very unfair, but that is what you get if you put the host’s weak teams (Poland!!!) as group heads. I was very sorry for Croatia too.
Croatia really deserved it, they were amazing against Spain and technically one of the most brilliant teams. Russia also was great but Greece played with all their guts out and they got physically tired too quickly. Denmark should also have gone through if they were in group A or D I think.
Hmmm..in Olympic games UK will be group head in all sports, and that made horrible groups (in volleyball for example (and they are so weak in the most of the sports)!! :@
German Melodifestivalen, sure (but w/o ‘jury’). Bundesvision would be fine as well but I share the same qualms with the writer. One has to pay attention to the fact that Swedish MF officially is not a pre-selection for ESC. This also could be the key to more famous artists to participate if they would not have to go to Eurovision eventually.
Anyway, all I wish for is a GERMAN song which is in GERMAN for the first time since 1998 (2007).
1999 and 2001 were mostly in German too.
But I generally agree, I want to hear German in ESC again!
Yes, but I want it to be completely in (Standard) German. Hehe.
I’ve always wanted a UK national final to vote in the same way as the Eurovision final. With each major city and surrounding areas voting from 1 to 12. I hate that we have no choice regarding what we send to the continent.
I’d LOVE to see another Melodifestivalen, I’ve watched a few Swedish Melodifestivalen finals and would love to see another country’s take on it.
As for Germany, I’m glad that one of the tradition Eurovision countries is doing so well.
What about an internal selection?
As a German and a Bundesvision follower I can say that it is really a good idea to use it as a selection method. Since 2005, it took place every year and is so on already established among the German population. But I do not think that Pro7 will ever again work together with ARD, as they got no single advantage from that collaboration.
Depends on how Germany wants for the Eurovision. If they want to keep getting good places, go with the Unser Star für series. Three years in a row Germany has placed in the top 10 (even won 2010) with the show. Rating wise, go with a German version of MF
How? Wisely…
Actually i think Germany should stick with their current method coz its led them to the top 10 by televotes 1st ( 9th with lena and only choose the song) and thsi year 6th by televote
Is Bundesvision song contest that popular in Germany? According to wikipedia only 11% watched the contest in 2011.
The way they found Lena was good.. I dont like Swedish overhyped MF style at all, yuckk !! And to go internal could be an good idea, why not?? I dont who could be on offer for that, but I would love to see Rammstein
Yeah, Rammstein could probably go for a Lordi-like victory, unfortunately I don’t think they are up to it
I don’t see the reason to change the current, very successful, format. Usf has brought to Germany their best results in years and provided three excellent, contemporary tunes. A format similar to MF could work as well but it would need to walk in the steps that made MF successful : contemporary and diverse tunes and good artists. It could go the other way and end up like a FdC or FiK drivel. So better stick to Usf which is a great concept anyway by giving the chance to new singers.
I am sure the idea of creating a copy of melodiefestivalen gives many eurovision freaks a boner. But unfortunatly germany lacks a Bjorkman. Even worse a bad copy will likely fail. Fail on pleasing eurovision fans, fail on attracting a big audience, fail on selecting a good singer and a good song. Fail on all levels. Just sending someone from Bundesvision will not work either. At least not this year. All entries are already published and this is a problem with eurovision rules. And picking a different song would demand eiher an internal selection or an “Unser Song for Deutschland” Show.
I’d say realistic options are only “Unser Star for Sweden” or a national final. Hopfully in an improved and more interesting way.
I prefer USF, Germany sent best songs in three years , but the most important is germany must sing in its native language. Its ok if USF call international composer/songwriter , but can they ( german team ) translate in german?…
I’m also for German Melodifestivalen, but Unser Star…is also not bad, i mean since 2010 Germany is the only country along with Azerbaijan that made it all the years into the Top 10
I think they should bring back ” Wind” (a “refreshing band” quote unquote presenter 87), out of retirement for the nostalgia element, give them a NF of their own with a mix of old fashioned schlager stuff, and a bit of techo trance stuff (in German of course)…and “Bob’s your uncle!” as they say in English! Bob ist dein onkel (or however you say that great English expression in German!!)
and they still seem cute and willing after all these years LOL!, lovely mountain scenery and pullovers too, was waiting for a goat to appear but……I’d vote for them!! 4th time lucky?!
I would go for a small version of Melodifestivalen…
Two semifinals with six acts for Pro7 – the final with six acts for ARD…
so there’s time to build enough tension for the final and Pro7 with Stefan Raab would promote the Contest, too…
the twelve acts could sing in Stefan Raab’s show “TV total” in the weeks before the actual shows…
and they should select the songs very carefully, maybe Stefan Raab could be responsible as well, he knows what acts have chances… all the six German participatons with him involved went to the Top10, this is an incredible record…
maybe Anke Engelke could host the show or Barbara Schöneberger…
you should submit that, it sounds so well thought out
I think a two semifinal and one final national final sounds wonderful.
I agree with Morgan. You should submit that idea.
Haha, really?
I actually also thought about some artists who would fit into the show, could probably want to go to Eurovision and have enough mass appeal…
I think Mia could be willing to do that as mentioned in the article above – they took part already in 2004, they like taking risks, don’t care too much about what could people think about them and they would surely have a good German song…
Jeanette Biedermann maybe could be convinced easily – she took part in 2009 in the internal selection and it seems that she needs a comeback, on the other hand, she’s still some name…
maybe one could convince Rosenstolz to come back, for old time’s sake… I think with the right strategy, they wouldn’t mind taking the risk…
Stefanie Heinzmann could be another option – she’s a big name and she came out of Stefan Raab’s casting show…
then maybe someone from the schlager-fraction to cover this corner, too – like Helene Fischer or Michelle…
some classy acts coming from the Bundesvision Song Contest like Das Gezeichnete Ich, Blumentopf or Chapeau Claque…
and of course, it would be necessary to involve one or two of the really big ones like Adel Tawil, Cassandra Steen or one of the German rock bands… and why not even think about Nena? she obviously tries to come back on the screens, maybe she’s crazy enough to do Eurovision, too… she already hosted the German NF once, why not taking part?
Kick Nena out and I fully agree.
Sorry, but I totally detest that woman who is dumbest person I have ever seen on tv.
Haha, agreed and signed
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I just was thinking about “who has enough national and international appeal?”… personally, I’m no fan of her either… I don’t know her when she was big, but nowadays she comes across quite fake to me…
The best option is to pay to somebody famous from the USA to compose an entry or to perform it..Germany is rich and Germany has money to do that..even now Germany pays to some US songwriters to compose for winners of UFO, but they don’t pay enough it seems, because songwriters are unknown and singers are new, unknown and they suck..I would like smth modern and somebody famous from the USA, only that can work and save it..
Where have you been the last 3 years?
From time to time I traveled somewhere, but I lived in Belgrade.
I wish they would pay for Greek composers.
Even if this is to old to read, I have to say: Please no USFM anymore!!!
I just wish a Preselection with more than 9 Songs & there have to be German Songs as well, than I will be happy:) “Melodiefestival” may be the best Way, & if ARD has really bought the Format, why should they not use it?;)
& please not BSC! I watch the Show, too & I like it anyway, especially the Language Rule, but this is no NF! All the Artists are chosen by Raab, there are more than 6 People on Stage, Covers of old Songs, it starts before September…all this had to be improved & I don’t think they are interested to do this.