Belgium/Ireland – The official German Eurovision website eurovision.de has contacted all 41 national broadcasters of the Eurovision Song Contest to ask them for the results of their jury voting. Today the website revealed how both the Irish and the Belgian jury voted in the first semi-final and the grand final. Here is the result:
Ireland:
First semi-final:
| Points | Jury Votes | Combined Result: |
| 12 | Belgium | Romania |
| 10 | Romania | Greece |
| 8 | Finland | Russia |
| 7 | Greece | Denmark |
| 6 | Cyprus | Belgium |
| 5 | Denmark | Cyprus |
| 4 | Israel | Latvia |
| 3 | Hungary | Finland |
| 2 | Albania | Moldova |
| 1 | Switzerland | Albania |
The Final:
| Points | Jury Votes | Combined Result |
| 12 | Estonia | Sweden |
| 10 | Germany | Germany |
| 8 | Sweden | Estonia |
| 7 | Ukraine | Lithuania |
| 6 | Italy | Russia |
| 5 | Azerbaijan | Romania |
| 4 | Romania | United Kingdom |
| 3 | Denmark | Ukraine |
| 2 | Spain | Italy |
| 1 | France | Azerbaijan |
Once more, the juries gave no points to Russia, but the grannies still got high points from Ireland. The jury also completely ignored Engelbert Humperdink. I guess there were only Eastern Europeans in the Irish jury, right Brits?
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Belgium:
The First Semi-Final:
| Points | Jury Votes | Combined Result |
| 12 | Russia | Russia |
| 10 | Hungary | Albania |
| 8 | Albania | Greece |
| 7 | Austria | Ireland |
| 6 | Ireland | Hungary |
| 5 | Greece | Iceland |
| 4 | Iceland | Romania |
| 3 | Finland | Cyprus |
| 2 | Cyprus | Austria |
| 1 | Romania | Finland |
The Final:
| Points | Jury Votes | Combined Result |
| 12 | Albania | Sweden |
| 10 | Sweden | Albania |
| 8 | Serbia | Russia |
| 7 | Spain | Turkey |
| 6 | Russia | Spain |
| 5 | Ireland | Serbia |
| 4 | Hungary | Ireland |
| 3 | Iceland | Romania |
| 2 | Germany | Greece |
| 1 | Greece | United Kingdom |
Source= eurovision.de
Waooow Belgian jurors 12 pts for Albania!!!!!! me like
I like those 12 ponts too, Roslelil, but they should all be fired just for having given points to Russia, Greece and Ireland. LOL Haven’t they got ears?! Those alleged singers can’t sing live!
I dont agree on the grannies though, they were cute, singing in their native toungue..and they made me smile all 3 minutes!
Good for you, Roselil. I almost had a fit during the last minutes of the game, btw.
‘The jury also completely ignored Engelbert Humperdink. I guess there were only Eastern Europeans in the Irish jury, right Brits?’
I’m not sure what kind of a comment that is meant to be. Anyway, it is only people who wrongly think that Ireland has always lavished loads of points of the UK who will be surprised about this. If you look at the jury only era, using the current voting allocation (i.e. 1975-1996), most countries supported the UK more than Ireland did. Ireland is at number 21 on the UK’s biggest supporter list, or 20 if you ignore the single point from Morocco.
*single set of points from Morocco
12 points to Belgium? Of all the songs for the Irish jury to pick, that piece of drivel?
Anyway, I don’t see anything here that’s terribly bad or surprising even if I have some disagreements.
There was nothing wrong with the Belgian entry, it was current with todays music industry and charts, and was sung in key throughout with decent English Pronounciation, unlike some countries in Semi final 1: RUSSIA, ISREAL, SWITZERLAND, SAN MARINO, MONTENEGRO, CYPRUS & LATVIA . The results for semi 1 should have being the following if this was ACTUALY a sining competion: 1st Romania, 2nd Finland, 3rd Albania, 4th Moldova. 5th Iceland, 6th Belgium, 7th Denmark, 8th Greece, 9th Hungary, 10th Ireland, 11th , 12th Austria ,13th Switzerland (Poor English should have sung in Russian
, German or French), 14th Isreal (Terrible Vocals, Lack of currency, poor stagging and English), 15th San Marino (Dated, too cheesy, flat vocals) , 16th Russia (Bad English and diction problems, lack of currency, pathetic dance choegraphy and song lyircs) , 17th Latvia (Bad English & Diction problems, very poor vocal performance and tacky stagging, dated entry) ,18th Montenegro (Ecentric JOKE ACT, Poor vocals and sounded terrible when making some kind of an attempt to sing/ pathetically rap)
Latvia was an ironic act … Gosh! ESC fans really make me go through the roof …
LOL
And Montenegro was too intellectual for ESC imo. Quod erat demonstrandum …
Whether Latvia was meant to be ironic the entry didnt sound good at all when performed, besides the vocals, though the music was good, may be San Marino 17th and Latvia 15th, but still couldnt get other how falt it was. I’m realy obsessed with the vocal performance LOL
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Having had a formal education in music, I am obsessed with live vocals too … and Latvia gave us some of the better ones this year.
Good night!
that’s true, vocals save this dull entry to me
I see nothing current in Belgium’s entry nor was it sung correctly. To quote myself earlier: “Iris performed the dullest ballad possible with terrible English lyrics, off-key, and with no charisma. San Marino performed a bad song well, with good vocals, and a fun stage presentation.” This was just a comparison of the two. However, let me go a bit deeper into the Belgian entry to explain why this song is nothing but drivel.
The chorus includes the lyric: “What would you do when my house was empty?”
What exactly does that mean? It’s not even a properly-composed sentence, to tell the truth. “What would you do when/if my house is empty?” is more proper, although I’m still dubious as to whether that either the when- or the if-statement is completely correct. Getting past the poor sentence structure, the statement still has absolutely no meaning. Where is the direct object of the sentence when her house is empty?
Before the statement, all we have been getting is a garbled semi-statement of relationship between the two.
Come and find me, I’ve been hiding from you
Come and get me, running from you
It’s been easy, easy for you
To believe me when I say I love you
This verse has managed to give me a mixed signal as to the relationship between the two subjects. She’s hiding from him and running from him, yet at the same time, he’s being charged to find her and get her (by her, nonetheless). If she really wanted to make it easy for him, she wouldn’t be running from him but to him. Despite all this, we are supposed to believe that its been extremely easy for him to believe that she loves him. After this first verse, it almost seems like she’s the antagonist in this relationship and is the one causing the relationship to be strained.
This leads us back to the question, “What would you do when my house was empty?” If she’s hiding from him and running from him, why would he even think about checking her house? More importantly, if she hates this relationship so much, why does she even care what he’ll do when the house is empty?
The rest of the refrain goes:
My life in a bag and away from you
You took my love for granted, would you really miss me?
Any other guy would do, but would you?
My first question here is, “What love is he taking for granted?” Still, all we know is that she’s running from him and hiding from him emotionally. If that really is the case, how is he taking her love for granted. It sounds more like she is taking his love for granted. My next question is that if it is true that any other guy would do, what does it matter what he would do? In that matter, what exactly is she asking with that final ‘would you?’ anyway? Is she asking if he will do? Because if that is the case, she seems to have already answered that. If she is asking what he would do, what does it matter? If she is asking what he would feel about her leaving, I again go to the idea, what does it matter? She has yet to really show any care for him in the lyrics of the song.
The next verse goes:
It’s a secret and a question for you
Where I’m at now, what are you gonna do?
If you run here and look for me now
Are we done here or starting somehow?
At this point, I’m inclined to say that the entire song amounts to nothing more than word filler. This is no comprehensive idea in either verse so far beyond she wants to escape escape from him and has been checking out emotionally for a while, yet, for whatever reason, she expects him to take fault for the disintegration of their relationship. Even that little bit of an idea is extrapolated through the use of heavy analysis. All a casual listener is getting to hear thus far is gibberish. However, I do want to point to the last couplet and highlight the absolute incomprehensible gibberish that question is. I can’t even extract anything coherent from that.
Passing over the refrain again, we come to the bridge (comments in parentheses):
It’s a two-way street and I know that (I never would have guessed based on other verses)
But don’t look back (Who? At What?)
Still I wonder, still I wonder
This leads to a slightly different refrain at the end, where the third line of the refrain (“You took my love for granted, would you really miss me”) has changed to “But when I’m at your door, will you say you missed me?” The only thing I can bring out from that is that she realizes her fault (finally) in distancing herself from the relationship. However, she still seems to want to blame him for not loving her back, with a repeat of the line “Any other guy would do, but would you?”
For a “too long, didn’t read” version of the above analysis, the song is lyrically a mess that amounts to utter gibberish. As for the vocal part, she was off-key for almost the entire performance. As for the idea that it is contemporary, the televote clearly did not think that she was contemporary enough for them to want to vote for her. Even with the twelve points from the jury, her combined result in Ireland was only a measly six points, and let’s face it, very few people want to listen to the song ever again.
lol! good work :p
Few songs bother me as much as Belgium’s entry this year bothers me. Hell, Israel 2000, Switzerland 2004, and Bulgaria 2009 all bothered me less than this song. At least they don’t try to disguise how bad they are.
lol… I know what you mean, if you’re bad play the bad card, like NL 2009. It usually works better than just pretentious hypocrit and ultimately very annoying song. Still, Belgium 2012 however bad it can be doesnt come quite close to being as bad as my personal bottom songs (even if it’s down there in my ranking)
Objectively, you are correct. There are far worse songs, and Iris’ song will be ranked according to the merits of the song and her performance of the song. It will not lead her to a place in the pantheon of the worst of the worst, but she’ll bother me than most of them ever will.
fair enough and more than accepted from me… in order to annoy togravus and his anti-lithuania 2012ness, I will say that I feel the exact same way with Spain 95 such a dull boring annoying formulastic entry is not the worst, but probably the one i personally hate the most of 95 (but I have it ranked fairly around 12th or so)
That’s about where I have Spain 95 ranked, as well. Although, if you feel the same way as I do about Spain 95 as I do about Belgium 2012, I do not have nearly as much animosity towards it as you do.
There is absolutely no difference between Lithuania and Belgium this year. Both had bad songs.
On Spain 1995. The song is a formulaic ballad but Anabel was fantastic live, and as you know, the quality of live vocals is more important than the song on my list. As I always say: Learn the craft first and try art later.
haha this is great! Any way I can make that into a post?
I’ll have a draft submitted for review by tomorrow morning. I want to make it clearer and make some edits first (but I have to go out for most of the day).
There should be an article waiting over the comment waiting for you to review it.
Great stuff … but … aren’t 90 % of ESC lyrics gibberish if we take a closer look, in particular since everyone is allowed to sing in English? In fact, all the fantastic lyrics we got in the past years were in languages other than English: Germany 07, Portugal and Serbia 08, France 09 and Estonia 2012 to name those that come to my mind first.
Some gibberish 2012:
The whole big world is just one place.
You can say (that) is all the same.
You may feel: hatred is sown
We can show you it’s no way to go.
(Hungary)
We’re breaking down the walls
We’re gonna hit them all
Cause we are believers
We are the dreamers
(Belarus)
Shake your body up
And do the dance honey
Shake your body up
Ain’t got no funny
I wanna fly…
Oooo..
(Georgia)
You call me baby
we spend the night
I´m so addicted
I feel alive
(Greece)
Love is blind it’s true
I’m on my knees for you
I’d give it all I can
To have you back again
Love is blind
(Lithuania)
You have never been at my show
You haven’t seen before how looks the trumpet
But the sound goes straight to your soul
(Moldova)
I don’t know what I am doing tonight
But this rush it is making me stronger
I don’t know if it’s wrong or it’s right
But I know: I want you to
STAY, nanananana
STAY, nanananana
(Norway)
Do you wanna be more than just a friend
Do you wanna play cyber sex again
If you wanna come to my house
Then click me with your mouse
(San Marino)
Today without a doubt
A good vibe is in the crowd
(Switzerland)
Oh my, it is pretty embarrassing to be an ESC fan. How can you justify spending time on stuff like this?
Yes, it’s tragic. Tragic. Especially when you think about how many countries that are translating their songs when they have won the national final and are about to participate in ESC. With the motivation that the audience must understand the song so that more can vote for it. No way; why would anyone vote for songs like those mentioned above because of their lyrics? The only time I can remember that someone has really reacted on these average lyrics song was in 2008, when some people became upset because of the salty pirates from Latvia. They thought they were singing “we are robbing a blind”…
The best part of your entire reply is when I got down to Switzerland and said, “Oh, so that’s what he’s saying there!”
I’ll probably compose a longer, more-coherent reply when I’m not about to head out the door with the family for the day. However, I did want to say that while I recognize many of the songs mentioned to have bad, sub-par, etc. lyrics, many of them are at least comprehensible to some extent when taken as a whole. This was not the case with Belgium 2012, which is a ballad, a genre where the lyrics matter highly because all the distractions from the bad lyrics have been stripped away.
I probably go easier on many of the pop songs lyrically because I rarely see good lyrics from native-English pop.
There was nothing wrong with the Belgian entry, it was current with todays music industry and charts, and was sung in key throughout with decent English Pronounciation, unlike some countries in Semi final 1: RUSSIA, ISREAL, SWITZERLAND, SAN MARINO, MONTENEGRO, CYPRUS & LATVIA . The results for semi 1 should have being the following if this was ACTUALY a sining competion: 1st Romania, 2nd Finland, 3rd Albania, 4th Moldova. 5th Iceland, 6th Belgium, 7th Denmark, 8th Greece, 9th Hungary, 10th Ireland, 11th Cyprus (Poor vocals during this emi final, but did improve in the final, whereas Ireland remained consistent vocally throughout the Final and semi final) , 12th Austria (Wasn’t verry pleasant listening to the Austrian dialect, but it was better than some and more bearable and less cringeworthhy) ,13th Switzerland (Poor English should have sung in Russian , German or French), 14th Isreal (Terrible Vocals, Lack of currency, poor stagging and English), 15th San Marino (Dated, too cheesy, flat vocals) , 16th Russia (Bad English and diction problems, lack of currency, pathetic dance choegraphy and song lyircs) , 17th Latvia (Bad English & Diction problems, very poor vocal performance and tacky stagging, dated entry) ,18th Montenegro (Ecentric JOKE ACT, Poor vocals and sounded terrible when making some kind of an attempt to sing/ pathetically rap
I hope you speak a foreign language ^^
I have dyslexia actaully so I have an excuse for my poor Spelling, and careless misstyping at times (which is just laziness)
Don’t you worry, Scott.
I didn’t mean that… It’s just that some native speakers make fun of people trying to speak their language and never bothered to learn another language.
once more, France got points from juries (just like in Finland) while nothing from televote… I wonder how “well” (relatively) Anggun did with juries. She probably got dead last with televote though.
Nice to see the 12 pts from the Irish jury to Belgium:) Iris was soooo underrated!
hahahahaha greece only 2
Big like ,bravos Belgium
Seeing the 4 pts from the Slovenian jury and the 6 pts from the Belgian one,it seems that the grannies were not completely ignored by the juries.
Russia? Austria? Ireland? Greece? The jury results are getting more and more ludicrous. With juries voting mainly for sh*t we might as well return to 100 % televoting.
that would be twice as bad, I think EBU must introduce an International Jury worth 30% then reduce the National Jury to 30% and the Televote down to 40%. There should also be more stricter criteria set by the EBU in how points are to be rewarded by the Jury. I would like it if we could actauuly see the Jury from each country so we can be sure they are all proffesionals in the music industry, I sometimes doubt the reliability of the Jurry in some countries, even in mine the UK, the people they have on our Jurry aren’t artists most are TV Producers/ people who work in radio.
Ireland’s televoting in semi 1 looked like this most probably :
12 : Russia ( rofl grannies probably won televoting overall )
10 : Latvia ( Surprised ! NOT )
08 : Romania ( How come ? )
07 : Denmark
06 : Greece ( Really ? )
05 : Cyprus
04 : Moldova
Albania 1 to 2 points.
Semi 1 : I definitely think Irish jury overrated Belgium (12 p ? ) and Romania ( 10p )! Nice to see 8 and 4 jury points for Finland and Israel.
Surprised to see Greece scoring 7 with Irish juries.Eleftheria worked pretty well with Ireland both jury and televoting-wise.Crisis support?
Once again Albania appealed to both juries and televoting ( even low )
Regarding Ireland’s voting patterns in THE FINAL :
TELEVOTING :
12 : Lithuania
10 : Russia
08 : Sweden
07 : UK ( lol )
06 : Germany
05 : Romania ( am I missing something ? )
Estonia : 1 to 4 points.
It is obvious that Irish jury fell for ballads this year , this time awarding top points to Estonia ( compared to Belgium in semi ).10 pts to Germany are kinda overrated imo but respectfully accepted.
7 to Ukraine seriously? ( They gave null to UK and 7 to Ukraine ? ).
Once again Italy , Spain and France got jury support and nothing from televoters !
On the other hand Russia scores once again top 10 with televoting !
Even though I thank them for giving us some points, why 7? It was a bit high conisdering there where better ballads compared to our dreary one. It just goes to shwo nieghbourly voting is present in whatever country as its based on culteral tastes, I get anoyed when our country doesn’t vote for Yugoslavian countries when they send lovely ballads.
Now coming to Belgium’s voting :
SEMI 1 :
TELEVOTING : Top 3 : Russia , Albania , Greece but still can’t figure out the order.
07 p : Romania
06 p : Cyprus
05 p : Iceland
04 p : Ireland
Finland scored at least 1 point !
Belgian JURY : 12 points to Russia , 7 to Austria , 6 to Ireland and 5 to Greece prove that juries can fall for ANYthing ( and actually that they don’t differ from the average televoter ).10 jury points from Belgium to Hungary were the ones that qualified Compact Disco over Switzerland most probably !
FINAL :
TELEVOTING :
12 : Turkey
10 : Sweden
08 : Albania/Russia
07 : Albania/Russia
06 : Romania
05 : Greece ( not enough diaspora this year ? or a very weak song than not even Greeks voted for? )
04 : U.K
02 : Ireland
Spain 1 or 3 points !
Serbia surprisingly scored null in Belgian televoting ! ( Jury awarded 8 points though ).
JURY :
Once again Spain , Iceland and Germany supported.
Belgian jury awarded 1 point to Greece !?Now people will start moaning we are spreading our diaspora to juries as well lol !!!
Russia scores another set of 6 points with juries lol !
And last but not least . Seeing the Belgian jury awarding their 12 to Albania will make a certain guy I know fall into the opposite of the title of the the 2012 wining song ! No offence ! Just kidding
Belgium jury – 6pts to Russia – wtf!!?? How can any jury member – supposedly music professionals – award any pts for that ridiculous Russian tune? We had any number of well sung, decent tunes at this year’s ESC, and a jury rates Russia 5th best in the final? Sorry, but that is an absolute disgrace, and no doubt just one of many strange jury results regarding Russia. Yes, we know stupid, easily-pleased people sat at home will find ‘entertainment’ watching bewildered OAPs walking around the stage in funny costumes offering everyone to, ‘come on and dance’ and rate Russia as some kind of high art, but this didn’t amount to a song, and was sung badly. So, please Belgium jury members, come forward and explain yourselves?
Dissapointing results from the belgian jury at some points but the points for Ireland, Sweden, Germany, Spain and Hungary in the final (Serbia and Iceland are also acceptable) show that they still have some sense left..Ireland seems much better of course.
and other results from countries the jury voted?
They remain hidden. ––.––