Podcast – Two presenters from the Australian radio station, JOY 94.9: Andrew Bell & Hikaru Freeman have embarked on an ambitious project in the run up to Eurovision 2012. They will be looking over many years of Eurovision entries, one country at a time. The first featured country is The Netherlands, which is one of Hikaru’s favourite countries. This chat starts out with Milly Scott’s 1966 entry which broke Eurovision’s colour barrier and goes through all the way to Sieneke in 2010, stopping at major and personal highlights such as Sandra & Andres’s 1972 entry, Teach-In’s win in 1975, Gerard Joling in 1988, and Ruth Jacott’s tour-de-force entry in 1993.
Eurovision History Chat: The Netherlands
Posted: January 11, 2012 by hikarufreeman in Australia, Eurovision Through the Years, Netherlands, Worldwide FansTags: Eurovision Song Contest, Gerard Joling, Joy 94.9, Netherlands, Ruth Jacott, Sieneke
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I like the concept of this project very much. I enjoyed listening to them; many of their comments and their analysis were quite to the point i.m.o. Well done boys! I think they were positive for my most favourite ever dutch entry too: De Trobadour.
LOL
By the way, I used to like Gerard Jöling’s song back then too, but it seems that since then my taste in music has changed…a bit
Thank you Eurovision Times for posting this article.
PS:I hear many people saying that dutch and german languages are, or sound, harsh, especially when it comes to singing; well, I couldn’t disagree more.
I do not agree with everything they say but very well done nevertheless! I particularly like that they are spot-on when it comes to analysing what has gone wrong since the introduction of televoting, first and foremost the wave of ridiculous, unappealing or simply excruciating ‘English’ we are exposed to year after year.
If I had it my way, I would bring 100 % jury voting back. I would not return to the language rule but have a panel of experts from English speaking countries judging the pronounciation. They should at least have veto power with regard to the winning song and the songs qualifying from the semi-finals.
1. Who is in the jury and who decides who is in the jury…
2. What pronunciation? GenAm, RP do we allow Irish singers to sing in their accent and if we do why don’t we allow an Italian, German, Bulgarian accent when speaking English then?
I have to go write a commentaire about Fontaine now, so I can#t elaborate, but I don’t think that this is the good solution… Eurovision would slowly fade away I think… It has always changed and will continue to do so… I already see myself in 30 years when Jedwards and Eric Saades have invaded the contest and will have the same thoughts, though
There is a difference between dialects/ languages based on English like Scottish, US-American, Canadian and Irish Englsih f. e. (perhaps even Maltese because they have partly used English in everyday life for 2 centuries now) and wrong pronounciation Belarussian style.
The juries should consist of music professionals only. They should represent different approaches to music (singers, composers, academics, journallists etc.) and different styles (pop, rock, singer-songwriter, rap, musical, classical, ethnic etc.) Juries of 20 would be a good solution imo.
Many ESC fans complain that ‘normal’ people make fun of their passion or even look down on them and the contest … but how can we expect educated people to respect a contest in which every second song makes you go ROFL because of the silly, random and sometimes very fanciful pronounciation of the language the song is sung in? Moreover, we have a wrong grammar issue in ESC too, and even more songs in which the grammer is ok but you can nevertheless tell that the song wasn’t written by a native speaker. (wrong use of idioms, funny imagery etc.)
I will respond at his time tomorrow, when the exams are over ^^
Good luck with your exams!
ah.. les partiels des petits :p
bon courage (la chance n’a rien à voir avec ça) !
Grand Amphi and Morpho/Enonciation left..
Is it a bad thing to have the song of a bearded transsexual in your head when you analyze La Fontaine?
Toggie Lina, AvatArmenia miss you in esctoday and we love ya Toggie!
That Dino!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I hate him!
@ eurovisiontimes
Please sorry for this comment, but I simply had to write it!
Good luck with exams!
I have to study but these days i can’t force my self! :S
Milly Scott was singing about Chileans (she says the city of Santiago), not Mexicans